RHONJ Producers Say Caroline Manzo Bullying Teresa Giudice “Is Laughable!”
This season on the Real Housewives of New Jersey, many have noticed a different side of RHONJ star Caroline Manzo. Caroline has been bitter, angry, and frankly very annoying! Caroline has even been called out by many viewers for bullying former friend Teresa Giudice throughout the season.
Producers of the hit show took to twitter to talk about the matter and think Caroline accused of bullying Teresa is just laughable saying, “@CarolineManzo bullying @Teresa_Giudice is laughable. They both can hold their own, trust us on that one! #RHONJ.”
I agree that they both can hold their own but do think Caroline has been extremely harsh to someone she once considered her friend. Do you agree with the producers or do you think Caroline has bullied Teresa?
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Of course they would say that! The obviously are the ones promoting that! Plus they will ask Caroline back and don’t want to lose ratings.
It is not bullying. Caroline is being very nasty, cruel and self rightous
.
She and the other ladies try to browbeat Teresa but it doesn’t phase her.
Producers are paid by BRAVO of course they will back up whatever Andy Coken (AKA Perez Hilton in a suit) has to say.
Just because someone is strong doesnt mean its ok to gang up and attack them. Andy Cohens ida of bullying is beating someone up for their lunch money.. MEAN GIRLS ARE THE REAL BULLIES! Gossiping, and singling out one person.. Caroline Manzo is a mean girl bully!
Those Hipsters at Bravo really don’t give a shit what we think.
Arrogant selfish TV producing generation coming our way…
No one is ganging up on Teresa. The ladies are simply defending themselves. T should not have started fights with every single cast member. What did she expect?
Defending themselves against what? Caroline and Kathy are responsible for the fight in Napa. Jax and Caroline ambushed Teresa on Jax’s house when they brought up the tabloids. Jax is on twitter constantly trashing Teresa business ventures. Caroline does not put a lid on the Gorga and Guidice fued, she throws more fuel into the fire. They are bitter and jealous because the show was to suppose to revolve around their family.
Thank you Say What!!! I wrote that to the producers as well as Andy Cohen, as their explanation of just because you’re strong, means you don’t get bullied in my opinion is B.S.! And, when you have 4+ (children, husbands, etc.) on Teresa’s case for 2 season, I think this qualifies as bullying!
Caroline and Teresa hate each other, they fight, that doesn’t equal bullying. Teresa admitted on the show, she doesn’t care what Caroline says, she said the viewers say she’s bullied. Couldn’t even come up with an example! That’s that, they just hate each other. It is just uncomfortable to watch. Makes them both look bad.
Exactly. This whole Housewives being bullied thing is out of control. As Heather Dubrow said, you sign up for the show, you sign up for all that comes with it. It is definitely ugly to watch grown women fighting, but this is not “bullying.” And if they wanted whatever this is stopped, then they can quit the show.
Bullying is being used too much, both go after one another equally and its so ugly to watch! All bravo cares about is ratings and $$ its up to the people who signed up to either get out of the kitchen if its too hot or continue to embarrass themselves and their familys on TV….Money is not the answer Family unity is! Shame on all of them!
Caroline is a controlling bully who atacks Teresa non-stop. As somebody else said, just because somebody is strong doesn’t mean that it’s OK to browbeat them. Teresa’s strength is what makes Don Caro go nuts. She can’t control Teresa like she controls Lapband, Katfish and Jackaholic, and she can’t stand it. She can’t control Dina either, and that’s probably why they don’t talk.
Ok, under that rhetoric, does that mean an abusive husband is not abusive because the wife says she is strong enough to handle the abuse? So a black eye goes away just because the woman is strong enough to overcome it? No. The action to bully is garnered by the doer not the receiver. Whether Tre can handle it or not is independent of the fact that Caroslime is a bully. Period.
That is just bs, but now i know producers continue to fix thepolls in caroline’s favor. The producers are saying that because they took part in it, just because it didn’t make teresa crumble doesn’t change their actions. Caroline, bullying is when you get a group of “soldiers” to build an army against a person. And just for kicks caroline tore teresa apart to anyone and everyone as much as she could. I hold the producers just as responsible, they went after teresa’s families and friends (not that they weren’t eagar to join in) but it wasn’t enough they didn’t hurt or break teresa enough with her cousin, richie,her brother, sister in law, they bring on rosie to try to get at and hurt teresa knowing how she loves her. The producers clearly have it in for teresa, remember what jacqueline’s mother tweeted that the producers came to jac to set up teresa, if they were going to jac then they were going to the rest of them. The producers are scum and to quote jacqueline once again “going to hell”.
because she is empty inside
Bullying is the use of force or coercion to abuse or intimidate others. The behavior can be habitual and involve an imbalance of social or physical power. It can include verbal harassment or threat, physical assault or coercion and may be directed repeatedly towards particular victims, perhaps on grounds of race, religion, gender, sexuality, or ability.[2][3] The victim of bullying is sometimes referred to as a “target”.
Bullying can be defined in many different ways. The UK currently has no legal definition of bullying,[4] while some U.S. states have laws against it.[5] Bullying consists of three basic types of abuse – emotional, verbal, and physical. It typically involves subtle methods of coercion such as intimidation.
By this definition I would say that Caroline along with the rest of the hags have tried to bully Teresa. In the beginning of the season when they all gathered at Jac’s house & they were all talking about Teresa’s cookbook. As soon as Teres & Joe walked in you can see them begin their bullying by trying to degrade her book & her. They also ganged up on trying to intimidate her by going at her at the same time and Melissa sealed it with “we will take one for the team so you can make a little extra cash” – trying to humiliate Teresa (the target) in front of the rest of the group. In that scene there was a severe imbalance of power since Teresa was at Jac’s house & really outnumbered.
The same scenario played out during field day but the target was Gia. Tremendous imbalance of power that involved emotional abuse of an 11 yr. old. While Gia repeatedly asked for her mom these grown ass women continued to intimidate & humiliate her in front of the little boy that was there & on camera.
Bullying definitely occurred in Napa when Caroline verbally harassed Teresa by calling her a disgrace, garbage, etc in front of her family (who outnumbered the Giudice’s) friends, crew, etc. The list goes on for this season but of course Bravo will never admit to it happening. Teresa is a strong person and hard to bully, however, the others definitely tried their hardest to bully her. And they continue now even after the season is over.
Ok so to save herself from this persistent bullying, Teresa has quit the show.
Hahahahahahahaha, JUST KIDDING, she would never do that because what is happening to Teresa on this reality show ABOUT creating/surrounding yourself in drama with your fellow castmembers is NOT bullying.
The whole “bullying” phenomenon on RH started when CRAZY-ASS Kelly Killoren-Bensimon lost her shit on the Scary Island episode a couple seasons back on RHNY and in an effort to clean up on her PR end, she made a PSA about bullying claiming that the other ‘wives bullied her on that episode. No one bullied her then, Aviva is not “bullying” Ramona, Carolyn is not “bullying” Teresa, and Tamra is not “bullying” Alexis on RHOC because they all signed up for a show centered around women not getting along with each other. Junior high kids don’t have the luxury of “opting out” of school to avoid their bullies, and they certainly don’t get paid thousands of dollars to endure it. Saying anyone on this franchise is bullying or being bullied cheapens the awareness effort of ACTUAL bullying and goes to show that Bravo does a fair job at making viewers believe all of this is actually real.
Totally agree, well said. i thought I was the only one who was with teresa. caroline looks like a psycho. and when she said tree was a sociopath, i twigged that caroline knows exactly what caroline is! she showed her true colours!
Bullying may be defined as the activity of repeated, aggressive behavior intended to hurt another person, physically or mentally. Bullying is characterized by an individual behaving in a certain way to gain power over another person.
this def came from wiki.. Chucky’s behavior CAN be correctly called bullying. Teresa IS strong,,, but that doesn’t change the fact’s of Chuckys behavior.
What irks me about it the most is that Andy is always on Joe Guidice for his use of gay slurs and has basically made sure each housewife franchise promotes and maintains a gay presence. For someone who so obviously cares about being politically correct and has concern for the gay community can it then be said that he is promoting his own agenda? I don’t get how you can condone what has went on with T this year yet be upset with Joe for using words he (Andy) finds offensive.
Mandy only cares how gay people are treated and depicted, and clearly couldn’t care less about a straight woman being bullied and dragged through the mud and her family torn apart. He thinks that’s fun.
Look at Rosie. She revealed herself to be a total out of control savage when she threatened Teresa, but Andy ignored her tirade and fawned all over her. Sorry, but there is nothing “cool” about Rosie and those scenes at the bar with Katfish, and the disgusting hot tub scene were the only times I have changed the channel on this show.
Andu is selective about what is offensive. He never called out Koe Gorga for using butt buddies or retard.
Why am I not surprized in the least with this story.
OF COURSE Andy’s employee’s are going to follow his lead. Afterall he was trying to excuse the Jackhole4′s bullying actions, by claiming that Teresa is a strong Lady, and because of that she can’t be bullied. WTF is wrong with him, if she put a complaint in to WSIB Worker’s Safety and Insurance Board(or whomever it is in the USA) she would win against Bravo.
Rosie threatened to personally harm her, and after her tirade and threats, Andy brought her on stage. He put her at risk, and exposed Teresa to potential harm. A definate NO-NO for safety reasons, and as a boss, he could and should be held liable.
Rosie has a criminal record, she has assaulted her Ex, Francis, right Rosie.
IMO, Caro is a bully, plain and simple, no IF AND OR BUTTS ABOUT IT.
Bravo doesn’t want to admit that Caroline is a bully, because they are horrible bullies, too. Unless you are gay like Rosie. then you get the mazel of the week from Andy for threatening to cut someone’s tongue out and kill them.
Exactly, and I specifically remember over a year ago (one of bravo video blogs answering questions) and the topic of gays came up, and he went on and on and SAID that anyone who doesn’t like a gay person is a BULLY. So, dear Andy Caroline and the rest don’t like Teresa, have all verbally assaulted her, her friend Rosie threatened to cut her tongue out and kill her, so I think they are all bullies in this situation. Bullying and attacking has become the them of the HW shows, so I’m out.
Picking on someone is a form of bullying. Plain & smple
Exactly. But they’re trying to change rhe definition and base it on the recipient’s response instead of the perpetrator’s behavior.
Ditto.
I wasn’t going to comment but what you just said is very smart. Great comment. Somebody please tweet that to the producers and attach the cast members name to the tweet. I would if I had or used twitter.
Brilliant
Exactly. It doesn’t matter whether the one being bullied can hold their own or not. The behavior of the person who is doing the bullying is what decides if it is a case of bullying or not.
Now they want to tell us not to believe what we witnessed all season!! Don caro told us to read between the lines and we did!!! Doncaro came out the loser and the rest of her creepy crew!! We watched T be bullied all season.
pattigirl…….EXACTLY, it’s not ‘bullying’ it’s the vile words that come out of her mouth ‘bashing’ Teresa…….
I don’t like the word bullying because I think the frequent use of it diminishes the seriousness of the act. Real bullying is a crime and often involves physical acts. But Caroline was one mean nasty person the past two seasons. She herself admitted she didn’t like the person she became.
She doesn’t like the person she became I think that is who she really is. Just look at Lapband, she’s a bitch and where do you think that comes from. The manzoids are nasty, vile hateful people.
I’m not disagreeing with you; half her family isn’t speaking to her so I doubt she changed overnight. I was just pointing out that even she herself admitted how nasty she was.
I think that the only reason she admitted to not liking her own behavior this season was to try to clean up her image. I think she miscalculated the viewers. She assumed we would all go along with her Tre is the devil propaganda and when the public backlash towards her and her crew started coming in, She back peddled. I think this season was the real Caroline but she can’t let the public know that. How will she sell her book if nobody likes her?
Me too. I feel that the word “bullying” itself needs to be only used where children or adolescents are concerned- small ones singled out by bigger, meaner kids, or adults.
To see this word appropriated by all the Bravo housewives pisses me off to no end (I think Jill Zarin did it first), for it tries to equate two equal women browbeating each other with a situation where a small child is ridiculed to the point of having to change schools or even considers (and commits) suicide. It is an insult to victims of real bullying, for their pain is trivialized by these women claiming that their televised (and PAID) antics deserve the same consideration and subsequent compassion.
As far as RHONJ goes, this is a dogfight, plain and simple. Caroline has the mouth and personality of someone used to speaking loudly to gain immediate obedience. Teresa is a diva. They’ve got balls where it comes to taking on the other. (However, where bullying is concerned, I’d say Caroline has bullied Lauren and Ashlee.)
Lexistential, ITA with your comment. Unfortunately I’ve had a very close family member that has been a victim of bullying. It’s very sad and ignorant for these housewives and their fans to continually claim to be the victim of bullying. Jill and Kelly started the ‘I’m being bullied’ campaign then followed Alexis and many others. I don’t believe Teresa would have ever stated Caroline bullied her had her fans not started the bully campaign in support of Tre. It is sad for the true victims of bullying and all that they have endured. I agree that Caroline was mean, hateful and over the top annoying. I also get that there are different degrees of bullying but Tre has not been bullied my Caroline or anyone else on rhonj.
Damn,I have to agree with Lexistential.Odd how one`s outlook can be changed in a word.
Emotional abuse can be just as, or more hurtful than psysical abuse, so I wouldnt agree with u about that.
Maya, You are correct, emotinal abuse can be just as painful as physical abuse, We are discussing the characteristics of being bullied. Teresa has never been bullied by Caroline. Joe has treated Tre worse than Carolina, is it safe to say Joe has also bullied Tre? I don’t think so, you should reread Lexistential comment. The comment clearly stated what bullying is and it very easy to understand.
It always comes back to Andy.I really do believe he has it in for Teresa.I have never seen this degree of abuse allowed by him before.Yes,she is strong but they keep going at her in places that would never be allowed before.It has become sick.I don`t even know what the outcome he is after.When the ganged up on Beth in rhony he did see to it she was handed a show that would slap those women in the face.With Teresa he reminds me of a little boy poking at an injuried animal to see how much more it can take.I give up.I no longer can watch this.I want to know how Teresa comes out but no more Real Housewives for me.It would mean I am ok with this kind of behavior.
Exactly me, you are right. Also isn’t bravo the one that chose to edit caroline in her worst moments rather than try to catch her softer side? They instigated this whole freakn mess so if they invite her back I sure won’t watch. Good try BRAVO, NOT WORKING ON THIS VIEWER!!!!
I agree Renee and Caroline is going to be pushing a book she wrote, I wouldn’t take one of her books for free!!!
The fact that the producers felt the need to even address this means that enough viewers are complaining about bullying. Keep it up! We need to speak loud and clear!
Indigo you are so right!!
I feel Caroline is indeed a bully not only to a certain cast member, but also to her kids and most likely her entire family. Unfortunately, Lauren is copying her mother. Usually an Italian family is supposed to stick together and work
problems out and NEVER call one another curse words.
I was disappointed in Kathy. Parents and children
should not have “air time” or in other words “caught in their arguments.” I guess Kathy
hasn’t learned that the fans go against someone who humiliates other’s…thus, not buy a product.
Andy only shows gays in a certain light: Hairdressers, stylists, etc. Gay people are lawyers, football players and doctors too. They are people that are highly intelligent. Andy, why
not depict a person not in the art field?
Highly intelligent like someone who started as an intern at CBS news and ended up building a network and franchise that we all can’t get enough of?
I’m going to say this; Caroline is not a bully, but she definitely “bullies” people on some occasions (ie. Danielle, throwing Kim G out of someone’s home with her kids, ambushing Teresa and napa pool scene),
What?
Shes a nonbully that bullies people. Sorry, but it dosent make any sense.
I love Teresa and definitely think she is bullied. Bullied by everone not just Caroline. Caroline is just the meanest and most heartless. Honestly I think she is so full of crap, always trying to give advise and act like everyones mother. She needs to step back and learn her place. One the finale Teresa was asked if she through Caroline was a bully, she replied yes. Then Caroline continued to say give me an example of when, when teresa, when? Grrr right now biotch!!!!
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Tons of typos. Sorry
I’m not sure bullying is the right word, but he has been overly angry at her. If she didn’t like something about her behavior, she could have tried addressing it with Teresa. And her anger at Tre for how she perceives Tre is with Melissa is completely ridiculous and none of her business. That to me shows a huge lack of loyalty.
It’s an attempt at intimidation. Not bullying. They don’t accomplish their goal. The mentality is that of a bully.
The act of intimidating someone through words or physical action is bullying!
MEAN GIRL BULLYING!
Relational Aggression
In addition to the direct negative actions, bullying is also comprised of indirect behaviors by causing a student to be socially isolated through intentional exclusion. These indirect strategies are referred to as relational aggression. Relational aggression refers to form of aggression that is meant to harm the social relationships of an individual. As the name implies, it is not a physical abuse but a social abuse of connections and influence to keep the victim as low in social standing as possible. Exclusion is the common manifestation of relational aggression, but it also involves exaggerating the alienation as well. Relational aggression is the predominate strategy used by girl bullies.
General Information
Characterstics
Girl bullies do not fit the stereotype of a bully. To most adults a bully is a big kid pushing around another kid half the size. Girl bullies are the popular girls in school and are well liked by adults. The girl bully appears to have the perfect life as she has all the latest clothes, her nails are polished and her hair is professional done. She is overconfident and is the “queen bee” of the group telling others what to do and think.
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Andy Cohen doesnt know what bullying means. He needs to be educated and so do his producers!
you are correct, Andy has come to believe the only real bullying is gay bullying.
the persecuted has become the persecutor.
If Bravo doesn’t get rid of Caroline and her nasty daughter Lauren, I will not be watching. They are miserable to listen and watch. bye bye Bravo,, thanks for effing up another one of your franchises.
I guess it’s safe to say Teresa bullied Danielle, so if Caro is a bully the Tre is beyond a bully. Tre treated Danielle horribly, it was very difficult to watch. Caroline was be annoying, irritating,obnoxious and hardheaded. To say Caroline bullied Tre is definitely laughable!
Ok,Teresa was part of the gang up on Danielle.She has even said she was.She also has said how damn wrong she was for it.On that note will we get to watch someone come in next season and stomp the hell out of Caroline?That I would pay to watch but don`t hold your breath.You are wrong about one thing.Caroline has been beyond a bitch to Teresa.And that makes her a bully like it or not.
TreBitch has the exact same characteristics of the girl bully, only she isn’t a girl and most adults don’t like her!
Define most.Give me some real numbers.
it’s a little late to be saying “trust us” producers!
Haha
DITTO!! Caroline may not “bully” Teresa but her obnoxious, superior attitude has gotten on my last nerve.
I agree, why attempt damage control that insults the dedicated viewer? Whether or not someone agrees with the word “bullying,” Caroline’s behavior was vindictive. I believe if Caroline likes you then she can be engaging and warm. However, when she dislikes someone, whether or not it makes sense to the viewer, then she is truly a piece of work. She blamed her behavior on thinking she was menopausal only to tell us at the reunion that she isn’t. She doesn’t have an excuse despite relying on the menopausal? maybe? crutch for awhile. Teresa can “hold her own”? I suppose, but as a viewer, it can be painful to watch her sluggishly articulate on the spot while Caroline or the others lash out rapidly at her. I feel like so many are trying to convince us that there is no long-lasting damage to Teresa’s psyche and that she can hurt Caroline too (despite the reasons for how she “hurts” Caroline at times seeming petty and far-fetched.) I’m unsure whether I agree with the producers’ reassurance.
exactly! I almost feel abused by Caroline, bravo please make her stop hurting me, please.
LOL Kristy! If she does return then I do hope her storyline does not continue to center around how much she hates Teresa. She keeps saying, “life is good” on twitter, so maybe Bravo can actually show us some of that rather than continue this dark mess the past two seasons have been.
yeah chucky is saying life is good,,, while her daughter is cussing and calling ppl names.
Lauren is way to young to this bitter,,, I wonder what she would have turned out like if she had suffered real difficulties
every time i see the reunion and see her ask Teresa how to spell napalm… N-A-Q-C-A-L-M. what an Einstein. This is the essence of Manzo. get them off the show. along with the Wakilies
Leave mehor and stump, she can’t take the heat without someone to hide behind.
Ditto! Can’t trust these shady producers. Man, oh, man! Caroline’s picture… Hahaha! Can’t help but LAUGH! She looks so crazy and unattractive! Does she ever look pretty, or how about looking decent for a change? She’s on t.v., and she looks pathetic. Betty White is wayyy older, but a total beauty! C’mon Caroline… Get a makeover, but first, START WITH YOUR ATTITUDE and BLACK HEART FIRST.
like Dina said if you hold onto anger and hate on the inside it will turn you ugly on the outside
I suppose you think Tre was gorgeous wearing that dress with the feathered shoulder pads, her hair slicked back like Eddie Munster or some crazed vampire, absolutely hideous.
one bad outfit doesn’t really compare to caroline constantly looking like someone is twisting her cojones
No and the ugly dress Tre wore,,, (even Tre doesn’t like how it looked)….
Melissa wore the same style on the S4 reunion… only different fabric. copies even Tre’s ugly dresses. Pit te full
Caroline needs to take care of her own family and leave Teresa alone. She is a bully. Teresa can hold her own.
Caroline HAS bullied Teresa all season. Just because two people can “hold their own” doesn’t mean one of those people will try and dominate the other. Stop trying to sweep it under the rug. The viewers are NOT stupid, and the sooner the RHONJ producers realize that, the sooner they can stop making themselves look like fools.
Ugghhhh….Why does Bravo love Caroline so much. She was unbearable to watch all season long. I had to tape it and just watch Teresa scenes. She was nothing but mean and hateful and Laurent too. They have no business condemning anyone.
Have you read the story about Al Manzo trying to weasle his way into another police force?
Check this out.. read the comments too!
http://fauxreality.wordpress.com/2012/10/09/in-the-pipe-line-state-of-new-jersey-vs-manzo/
The Manzos are criminals and are hurting from not having the ability to bully people with the police force. DIRTY!
Holy crap why are these people not being prosecuted? Why in the hell is bravo hiring shisters?
In last nights preview of S4 part 3,,, Andy is still grilling Juicy and Tres legal situation. He knows that anything Joe says on camera can be used against him in a court of law.
WHY DOES ANDY COHEN CHOOSE TO TRY TO INFLUENCE Joe Guidices court case? Why doesn’t ANDY call Joe Gorga on his “butt buddies” comments? Why does he make a joke or spectacle of Rosie? Time for Andy Cohen to get himself corrected.
Time for Andy to get the big Gay Royal boot! He’s behind the hiring of all the biased producers that helped Tre’s SIL & cousins try to tear her family apart! Then when things got too hot and viewers were on to him, the producers were fired! ANDY NEEDS TO GO!
Does that mean that the tax payers in the county paid for lauren’s lapband.
They paid for Al and Caroline Manzos lapband. I think he was fired before Lauren got hers.
Al offered to donate the amount of his surgery to the wounded warrior charity.. he promised to donate this money on a scheduled date.. months away… Which leads me to believe they couldnt afford to pay it back and had to wait for their trusty BRAVO paycheck.. Caroline DID NOT pay back the cost of her lapband..
Yet, people STILL do not see them for the Lowlife CRIMINALS they are!
i see them as scammers of government funds
wow, just wow. thanks for the link, I live in the uk and have never heard about any of this, blew my tiny mind. Thank you again!
Teresa needs to leave Bravo! They do NOT respect her. New producers and the same BS editing/bias.
No Caroline does not bully Teresa but her and the rest of the gaggle sure try! Too bad she won’t allow them to intimidate her lol They’re so pathetic.
Harper,
You are right. The producers have no respect for her. It is sad how biased they are.
Are these the same producers who “party” with the Manzos, Lauritas and Whoregas?
Probably!
No two ways about it, Bravo feeling the heat. BRAVO PROMOTES BULLYING. BRAVO PAYS BULLIES.
Including T, the biggest, table flipping, bully of them all.
She’s not a bully at all. Get real.
why did she table flip? because of the biggest criminal and bully of them all. DANIELLE!!
which she did say on the reunion she regrets the way she behaved towards Danielle which I can bet you anything is something you will never hear Caroline say to Tre in 2 years.
She also has stated several times that CA changed her. made her prioritize what is important in her life. I was not a Tre fan until the last two seasons. There is a definite change in her…..for the better. The fact that she was able to not only recognize her bad behavior in the past but also apologize for it shows that she has high moral character which is something that can NOT be said about these other ladies. Caroline was given several opportunities to apologize for her nasty behavior and not once did she do so. I believe the comment about Tre’s marriage was addressed on WWHL and Andy was almost prompting her to backtrack and her response was “I stand by what I said” The only thing Caro will say is “I didn’t like who I was this season” but never once apologized for her nastiness.
I wouldn`t call table flipping a crime.Hell that`s how you know your wedding reception was a success in South St.Louis
LOL Etta. I wasn’t saying it was a crime. Just pointing out it doesn’t seem like normal behavior for someone who is being bullied.
Just bc your strong enough to fight back does not mean you were not bullied! That’s like saying if someone physically attracted me and I beat THEIR ass… Then I wasn’t attacked. Bullshit! Caroline is a bully and so is her daughter..And did y’all notice it was sooo mean for T to leave out Katfish in her toast but perfectly acceptable for Caroline to leave out allbie girlfriend in hers! She is just mad that T is so successful and they are not… They helped sell her books with all their hate, it made us show T more love
i’ve said this before on another site…..
claiming someone is strong/can hold their own- therefore they are not a victim of bullying is the same as saying because a woman is flirtatious and dressed provacatively she can not claim rape.
Blaming the victim.
Fuck Bravo
ITA with you Hoolie, this is a very good example of Andy’s thought process regarding bullying, and his lack of morals.
SHAME ON YOU ANDY!!!
No matter what label you put on Caroline,her behavior has been horrible. She has been mean,nasty,intolerant,critical,etc. and Lauren is in on it too. The boys follow moms lead in a more subtle way but still get their digs in. Albert said talking to Juicy would make him stupid. Where do these people get their superiority from?
They have an imaginary supply of superiority.
Too bad they are portraying themselves as anything but superior. The Manzo’s are criminal’s and a joke.
i couldn’t agree more! i thought it was no big deal at all when tre said nothing about kathy. she said it was great to spend time with her brother and melissa because they shared an RV together…and thanked chris for inviting them, and then said “happy birthday” to caroline which was thoughtful of her…she didn’t mention anyone else…kathy took it way too personally and i also caught when caroline left lindsay out of her toast. she is a mean, jealous woman who wants her sons totally devoted to her. did you catch how she’s always downplaying any romance they might have? she’ll be one of those dreaded mother in-laws you here about, like mine!
sorry…hear about!
I think Caroline did bully Teresa on Jacqueline deck and when they were in Cali.
I think Caroline led her ‘ posse ‘ to gang up on Teresa all season and of course on the Reunion.
Caroline is a nasty nasty person!
agreed on that NonnaB!!
Caroline would be fine as long as she didn’t have to pimp out her kids’ latest ventures @ every turn. I mean, she brings the drama & that’s why we all watch. Caroline vs Teresa was huge this season, with record ratings, so of course they’re gonna support the cash cows. I would be more surprised if they said Caroline was being a twatface.
Of course the producers say it is “laughable” because they have set up and edited Teresa and Joe in a negative way all season due to the producers’ friendships w/ the other HWs. The worst one is gone now, so we will see what next season brings. Little was said about anyone elses’s financial problems, which are quite serious; nothing brought out about anyone else’s suspected infidelities, altho there are rumors about the others (they only focused on JGuidice); can’t talk about Caroline’s problems w/ her siblings, but anything negative regarding Teresa and Joey is right out there for all HWs opinions. Caroline puts out no fires – she is the one dumping gas on Teresa and Joey’s bonfire of problems. So, yeah, the producers are denying it – would you admit you were greatly responsible for setting up this stinking mess???
By the way, producers, we viewers aren’t stupid — we see Caroline for who she is, as does her siblings who keep their distance from her. Bullies pick at people and enjoy it, and they talk over people (esp. Jaq) because they think their opinions are superior, AND they are relentless because they are just plain mean: just described Caroline.
JanieG Very well said!Agree 100%
Yes chunky is a bully!Teresa being able to stand up for herself does NOT make chunky less of a bully!She is an overbearing bitch that has finally met someone she can’t push around anymore and she can’t accept that.Hence the hate and accusations.Who will be chunky next vctim?She always has to have one to spew her hate and personal failures onto!Be forwarned Jacoholic,Katfish and MeHo!
Caroline is most certainly a bully by have all the other women gang up on Teresa. She did it to Danielle, then Kim G, she even did it to 11 year-old Gia. What middle aged woman would bully a child? Only a coward. Caroline is a bully. Period.
I do not think it would be as bad as it was, if it were only Caroline having to spew bs at Teresa. But when you take into account it was everyone, mostly at the same time, thats a problem! When you also factor in that the 2 new ones kissed ass and followed Caro’s lead- hello? What did you think would happen? Then you throw in Jax the puppet- ugh yes, it comes across as bullying or bully mentality in a group setting. Caro and Jax inserted themselves in a problem that they should have never get involved in.
This is from Pacer.Org While the site addresses bullying by children, this so fits RHONY:
Defining Bullying Behavior
What is bullying? At first glance, many people might think this behavior is easy to define. Their first image of bullying might be of a physically intimidating boy beating up a smaller classmate. While that can still be considered bullying today, parents need to know that bullying behaviors can be much more complex and varied than that typical stereotype. For example, harmful bullying can also occur quietly and covertly, through gossip or on the Internet, causing emotional damage. Let’s consider a few definitions of bullying.
Although definitions of bullying vary, most agree that an act is defined as bullying when:
The behavior hurts or harms another person physically or emotionally. Bullying can be very overt, such as fighting, hitting or name calling, or it can be covert, such as gossiping or leaving someone out on purpose.
It is intentional, meaning the act is done willfully, knowingly and with deliberation.
The targets have difficulty stopping the behavior directed at them and struggle to defend themselves.
Bullying can be circumstantial or chronic. It might be the result of a situation, such as being the new student at school, or it might be behavior that has been directed at the individual for a long period of time.
*RHONJ but could be any of the Housewife franchises
Caroline is a Bully by any definition of Bullying. Frankly Bravo has a vested interest in saying its not Bullying since they can be sued for creating and encouraging a hostile work environment for its employees. Andy Cohen is culpable as are the Producers who work for him.
Caroline is not a bully. She was mean, talked a lot of smack but she is not a bully. Bullying means using intimidation through fear to get what you want out of someone. Teresa is not afraid of anyone. There are some who are truly bullied and deal with it everyday. Bullying is serious and it causes lasting effects. Someone not liking you and talking shit about you is NOT bullying.
If I remember correctly, Chuckie clearly used intimidation when she threatened Juicy saying “my husband will ruin you.” BRAVO PROMOTES BULLYING.
I think Chuckie said they because they must have an “IN” with the judge in Juicy’s case.
As a matter of fact, if I were Juicy’s attorney I would ask that question of the judge before I would go to court again. “Are you personal friends of the Manzos?” If the answer is yes, I would ask for a different judge citing conflict of interest.
ITA Nonna, the Giudice Lawyer should definitely ask.
If I remember correctly, wasn’t there a story going around that Caroline ratted out, JoeGiu with her friend the ex-Sheriff Spizelle(re his license)?
And the story continued, to say that JoeGiu ratted out Big Al and Albie’s fake jobs at the Water Commission and the Sheriff’s Department, to the Governor’s Office.
BRAVO PROMOTES BULLYING. ROSIE AND HER MAFIA THREATS AGAINST TERESA SET BACK THE GAY CAUSE A FEW WEEKS.
WEEKS, HECK NO, HOW ABOUT YEARS!!!
absolutely, Rosie was portrayed in a disrepectful manner… drunk w/her sister trying to help her pick up chicks, or get some action in a hot tub
LOL great comment. It’s crazy that Kathy gets away with making comments about Teresa’s parents both mom and dad but Teresa gets slammed for commenting on Kathy’s father. She made her comment AFTER Kathy opened her big mouth. Two wrongs dont make a right but it should be pointed out that Teresa’s life was threatened by Beastly Rosie. Not right. None of these other ladies are better than Teresa and shouldnt get away with their hurtful threats and comments. God knows Teresa doenst get away with one slip of the tongue and is ridiculed for everything.
Thank you Nonna!Damn I wish Tre would have said that when Caroline demanded examples.
What does bullying mean?
Best Answer:
Bullying is when someone keeps doing or saying things to have power over another person. Some of the ways they bully other people are by: calling them names, saying or writing nasty things about them, leaving them out of activities, not talking to them, threatening them, making them feel uncomfortable.
Also, you have power in numbers, which simply means that it takes only one person to lead the pack. When their is a group and they constantly talke, badger, and demean the same person over and over..it is clearly bullying.
edit: meant to typed “there” ipo of “their” on my 2nd paragraph. I so need an edit option on these blogs. :p
By that definition T is the bully and has been bullying the others for awhile now. Their actions are the result of that.
The definition most definitely does Not describe tre.
She didn’t have a group that she encouraged to isolate one person from the rest. Caroline was the one who did that repeatedly throughout every episode. Not meant to be sarcastic, but don’t even watch the show, it would help if u did, then u’d undertand.
@Jersey, You mean like how T tried to isolate M by telling C and J not to talk to her when she came on the show? Or did you mean when T bullied Danielle? C said numerous times she didn’t care if J was friends with T but she was done. She also encouraged M to work things out with T for the sake of their family. Doesn’t sound like a bully to me.
My hope is that part 3 will show T flipping out and acting like a bully and K will admit T knew about or took part in the set up. Then what?
i couldn’t agree more…bullying can involve overt insults and name calling, as well as excluding someone from activities, ignoring them, refusing to talk to them, yelling, screaming, and so on…verbal abuse causes terrible emotional pain on the victim as does nonverbal abuse in the form of neglect, ignoring and otherwise demeaning a person. none of it is okay and it’s pernicious.
I agree, Tenisha. I’m saddened that so many think this is bullying. It really takes the focus off the people who are really being bullied.
Actually…if we are going to include name calling as a form of bullying., then we are all bullies in some form. Calling people names over the Internet, writing bad things about them, a group of people calling them names and maligning their character. Meho,, Jacawine, Caroclown, Katfish. Ironic.
I would be happy to admit to bullying caro and the others, when they admit that they did in fact bully Teresa for 2 seasons.
The difference is though, that they dont have to read, what I write and can escape it easily, by not reading it, but teresa couldnt escape, bc of her contract. And still, I am sure that if u saw another women get treated this way on her job, ur opinion would be different and no one would believe that she should just quit her job. Thats blaming the victim again. (No Melissa, not u!)
I’m pretty sure there is a clause in her contract that she could use if she wanted to walk away or felt threatened. Dina quit….Teresa can quit too.
Such BS Maya. If T was/is being bullied, she can walk away! No one is forcing her to stay on the show. She continues to sign those contracts year after year. I don’t understand why her fans feel the need to say she was bullied when she said herself that she wasn’t. If her fans really respected her they would trust her when she says it’s the FANS who think that, not her.
who are you and tenisha trying to kid? it’s a group of people including their extended friends and family constantly attacking teresa off and on the show. the only reason why you and tenisha think she’s not being bullied is because you favor bullies that are the manzos, lauritas, gorgas, marco sisters, wakiles and big bad cousin rosie. then you should call yourself a bully as well tenisha because you’re always in here namecalling commenters and teresa as well. meho, jacawine, caroclown, katfish had those names coming to them. did they really think their atrocious behaviour was gonna get sweet warm feelings coming to them? i think not. that is the effect of their own bad behavior.
First of all, I do not have a favorite on this show. I think they are all cracked in the head, which allows me to be unbiased in my criticism of them all.Secondly, I do not favor bullies because I was bullied when I was a child and it did not stop until I stood up for myself. I was tormented every day and I finally had reached my breaking point when my bully kicked me in the face and slammed my hand in a car door which broke two of my fingers! Third, I call bullshit… I have never called anyone here out of their name. I may have questioned the behavior but I stop a name calling a fellow commenter. We all have our opinions and we come here to express them. I don’t appreciate you telling me I have ever called one of you names. I work really hard to not stoop to that level even though I am angry at the personal attacks some of you dish out because someone doesn’t agree with your love of Teresa. Some are so quick to come on here and bash anyone that speaks against Teresa by calling them ugly names and questioning whether they are part of the family or PR team. Maybe before you go off, think about all the descriptions of bully that has posted today and make sure you are not being a bully yourself. Have a nice day!
Well said Tenisha!! I also don’t have a favorite HW and think ALL of them are partially to blame. I’m not attacking T, just calling it like I see it. If it walks like a duck….
As for this bully nonsense, I think some viewers may need to actually try to understand what being a bully really means. Calling other posters (and cast) names and attacking anyone who has an alternate point of view pretty much fits the description. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised since these are the same ones who seem to think T has done nothing wrong.
Then she can quit the show….
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
Suri,when did Teresa say that?I never heard her say that.I hear Jac`s say it but never heard Tre.When did Teresa tell her not to talk to Mel?
Teresa was bullied and targeted for 2 seasons.
BravoTv thinks the viewers are stupid.
i know its really starting to piss me off
Why would she continue to work for a company/network that treats her so poorly?
Oh, I guarantee the reply you’ll get is “because she was forced to.” It’s funny how there’s this huge conspiracy by Bravo to take Teresa down, and yet they’ll force her to stay on the show. When you want to “take someone down” I would think that the preferred outcome would be to interrupt that person’s success. So, if they really wanted to take her down, why did they keep her long enough for her to develop cookbooks and hair shit? Why didn’t they get rid of her before that? Why would they allow her to ride the coat tails of the fame of the Housewives franchise and become relevant?
A conspiracy on.the scale of which most of you claim there is takes some intelligence and calculation. Do you really think a MASTER PLAN would have this .many speed bumps?
oh hoodie, poor confused hoodie. bravo wants her on the show because she brings ratings. andy cohen & other bravo employees have their favorites and it’s obvious. don’t ever think bravo doesn’t fire people because they can & have fired many housewives over the years. bravo does want to make her look bad but i don’t think they want to take her down or else ratings will be low. it’s the castmates that do. they want to see her fail and they want her off the show. have you not payed any attention to the other housewives shows? the new york one bethanny frankel was the star and jealous jill zarine tried so desperately to get her off the show and it backfired. so do not think it’s not possible for castmates to get jealous & try to plot & plan to get another castmate off the show. i got news for you. all the housewives and their friends all try to ride bravo’s coattails and only a few have succeeded and teresa is the only successful one on her show.
because she made a promise to pay back her creditors and a bravo paycheck along with the free advertising appearing on the show gives her. She’s trying to dig her family out of debt and provide for her girls she can’t just walk away
I don’t think any of that matters. If T was in a dangerous situation, she would get out of it. Her fans must think she’s an idiot (like her haters do) because they don’t even give her enough credit that she’d protect herself and her family IF this were true. She’s threatening to press charges on M for touching her arm. Do u really think she would allow that?
A paycheck.The same damn reason everyone else stays at a job that busts their balls.
it’s a lot more than a paycheck IMO. i think teresa fell victim to the spotlight and fame and is now a “fame whore” too…she’s not the same person that she was in the beginning. i’ve only seen S4 but saw a couple S3 episodes tonight, and she’s like a different person…very ladylike and to see caroline being friendly and loyal to her was so nice and fleeting, apparently!
social aggression or indirect bullying is characterized by attempting to socially isolate the victim. This isolation is achieved through a wide variety of techniques, including spreading gossip, refusing to socialize with the victim, bullying other people who wish to socialize with the victim, and criticizing the victim’s manner of dress and other socially-significant markers~ courtesy of wilkipedia.
Sounds like what was done to Tre all season and in the year following the season to me!
Teresa was much more of a bully to Danielle then Caroline ever was to Teresa.
I think Tre handles it fine. She’s too stupid to ever know when she’s being insulted and reacts like an animal anytime someone says something she doesn’t like.
Karma. It’s a bitch.
You are kidding right? Caroline spreading that 12 year old book that smeared Danielle and told her story from 20 years ago was the most malicious act of targeting someone. Her only goal was to cause hurt and humiliation to Danielle an already unstable woman with two young children at home.
So you completely forgot about TERESA flipping the table because Danielle told her “Pay Attention”
And you forgot when TERESA chased her through a country club?
And you forgot when TERESA almost got on top of her at the reunion, pointing her finger and screaming in her face?
You’re right. All Caroline.
You got me with the table flip .JPG. LOL
Jacqueline was right there with Teresa chasing Danielle screaming about her arrests and calling her names. Plus she stood outside the car Danielle was in staring her down. She was just as much to blame and a part of all of that , as well as Ashlee.
I would have gotten in Danielles face too, at the season 2 reunion. LOL.
My only point is I find it funny that NO ONE complained when they ALL pulled the same thing on Danielle. And Teresa was the worse culprit.
Now that karma is biting her in the ass she’s acting surprised.
I don’t think Teresa was the worst one, I think Caroline was. Actually Danielle has said that herself.
I don’t think karma is biting Teresa I just think she was Carolines new target
Anyway thats how I see it.
ITA, JPG! It was ok when it was D. It was also ok if it was a comment in her cookbook, etc. Sounds pretty one sided to me. I have a problem with watching someone constantly trying to talk badly about others and doing whatever she can to try to ruin someone else’s life and when the tables are FINALLY turned, she’s being bullied. GMAB.
No one complained because we all believed Danielle was crazy (she is) Danielle was fighting back behind the scenes with Melissa and getting information on teresa and USING it!
In the end the whole thing was producer induced. The producers gave caroline that book.. They started that whole fight. Then with Danielle gone they needed a new target (just as danielle predicted!)
If Teresa leaves Caroline will find a new target. Producers will once again fool her dumbass! They will edit something someone says and show it to caroline as proof this person is trashing her.. Caroline will come out swinging and get the whole cast to go against this person… Its so obvious.
Who do you think Carolines next victim will be? MELISSA without a doubt..
Caroline was the ring leader in bullying Danielle. Ashley of course pulled her hair which is assault and battery.
Wait….wasn’t there a clip for part 3 that shows T getting up and screaming and pointing her finger in someone else’s face?
I don’t remember Caroline being the ring leader at all. I clearly remember her telling EVERYONE including Dina to stay the hell away from her.
Thats how I remember it too! Teresa is a big girl and can hold her own…I dont understand this mentality for everyone to jump on the Bully Bandwagon when she herself said she wasnt bullied!
Wait…so we’re painting Danielle as a hapless victim. Beyond what happened between her and Caroline, Danielle own actions put her in these situations. Taking a bunch of bikers to meet up with Dina and Caroline, bringing a felon as backup to a charity event, etc. Danielle did those all on her own and where was Caroline….not even in the building.
It is not a question of Teresa’s ability to hold her own. Rather bullying is about targeting one person as “so terrible” they deserve constant abuse, ridicule and punishment from a “clique” of punishers organized, and motivated by the bully. Caroline has systematically organized that pack of brutes to attack and blame Teresa for …everything.
Teresa has been formidable in both patience and displays of fierceness when all else fails, in fending off the attacks., but 5 (including her cjueless brother) against 1 episode in and episode out is profoundly unfair and disgusting.
To prove Caroline’s motivation to keep her pack of thugs together, recall how despondant she became when any of the lemmings had a good moment with , or a nice thing to say about Teresa.
Of course since the Producer’s are the organizers and enablers of this bloodlust, they have a stake in not seeing the truth about the bullying. It is not that Teresa is so great, it is just that she is no more venal than any of these opportunistic vainglorious women and surely does not deserve to carry the water for all of their collective sins and jealousies.
AsChrist said about the woman at the well, let he who has not sinned cast the first stone… Of course, Bravo plays favorites. The like the Manzo’s and are trying to revive her image with the public so they can justify bringing back such a vile unlikeable witch. She makes Jill Zarin look lie goodie two shoes…. Bravo, please!
littlewitch, I thoroughly enjoyed reading your comment.
thank you so much for sharing.
xo
I’m not sure if bullying is the right word either… normally with bullying the victim is a weaker person that allows some one to run all over them verbally, physically, and emotionally… Tre is NOT the weaker person and doesn’t allow them to do any of that to her… she is very strong.. however, they are all NASTY, HATEFUL, SH*T STIRRING, VILE B*TCHES that have a gang mentality… I actually believe Tre is stronger than ALL of them… they all feel so inferior to her they all have to band together to TRY to take her down… none of them have the balls to do it one on one… they need each other… Tre needs no one, she can stand on her own two feet…
True because T will just say things about them to magazines, gossip sites, in her cookbooks, etc. I guess that makes her a bully also.
Not all true Suri. What was said about them in the mags, were their own words quoted from the show. Ad far as the cookbook, what was said about Meatball-gate was from Rachel Ray show, and Caroline was present and had NO issue with it until T repeated it. As far as the gossip sites, I think its only “fair” Teresa say things finally in response to their smear brigade they have been marching along with for 2 years or so now. They have been relentless with their bitch fest campaign even on Twitter, T has never trashed any of them publicly like that. She just , this week, started to defend herself on 2 accusations, not even all of them that they have said. Why was it , or is it okay for all of them to trash talk about her for the last 2 years but she cannot defend herself or fight back at all? Thats hogwash!
So T just started saying things about them in the last week or so? Oh, I was under the impression her comments about M being jealous of her, copying her, she’d leave her hubby if a richer man came along, her bullying Danielle, the comments she made about C’s kids, flipping tables, getting in between C and D’s relationship, telling the others M was a stripper, not warning her family that she was about to be called a stripper on tv, (do I need to go on?) all happened before that. Yeah, I don’t agree this is recent. It seems to me this is all just a reaction to the things T has been saying and doing for quite some time now.
So she’s not allowed to defend herself? She just needs to take it? Teresa started none of that, she just responded to it.
None of what you listed comes close to the what the other women have said and done to her. She’s better off without any of them, and that inlcudes her disgrace of a brother.
Um…ALL of the cast mates have said stuff about each other on gossip sites, magazines, and last time I checked, Caro and Jacq talk about Teresa on twitter on a DAILY bases. Stop trying to divert the subject. Are you one of the producers?
No, Kimmy. I’m just a viewer who has watched T treat everyone like crap for the last few seasons. It seems she has no problem dishing it out but can’t seem to take it once the tables are turned. Karma.
Looks like she’s handled it pretty well. She’s more popular than ever. But it doesn’t make what those four have done right.
I don’t think Tres a bully… I think she’s had moments she’s lashed out in anger & I can’t blame her at all… But, it doesn’t make it right!
suri, that is called teresa defending herself. oh by the way, the cookbook, really? if you have ever read the cookbook you would see it wasn’t a big deal. caro like always took something small and made it huge because it’s really not about the cookbook. nobody can be that petty. what about before the cookbook conspiracy? they were all talking about teresa, making rude comments about her and already forming their little hate group against her before the cookbook came out. the cookbook is no longer an excuse.
The real issuse is that Teresa is successful and the Manzo/Laurita business deals have failed, or are mediocre at best. A few weeks ago, I saw a rerun of the first reunion, and Dina, Caro, and Danielle were the stars with Teresa and Jacqueline playing a supporting role. And frankly, Danielle was the most articulate of all.
But she didn’t anticipate that she would be in a supporting role to Teresa once Danielle left, and that’s what’s pissing her off. She was reduced to muttering in the backgroud at the reunion, like a member of the peanut gallery because the action did not focus on her.
RU -Why if it’s T, it’s her defending herself? But if it’s any of the others, they’re bullies? They have ALL played a role in this. The difference is some admit their roles and some don’t. No one said T shouldn’t stick up for herself. But let’s have the same standards and rules for all of them then.
Well said southernbelle!Except the part about needing no one.We all do and Teresa is no different.
Producers, STFU! We have known for 2 seasons what side you’re on! I wish all of you would have gotten fired and not just Pussy Cat.
Bravo is trying to make light of it because they are responsible. Since they employ these women, they are liable.
Bullying in the workplace is in the majority of cases reported as having been perpetrated by management and takes a wide variety of forms. Bullying can be covert or overt but it’s always bad.
@Summer, ITA and I posted about Bravo’s responsibility and liability in all of this upthread.
that applies her for sure
Carolwhine is whining! Karma is going to catch up to her….
We all need to go on twitter and tweet the “bully definition” to bravo.
Like were a bunch of nitwits who didn’t view what was going on for the last 2 seasons.
Why does Bravo think RHONJ is the #1 hit of the network? Sure as hell wasn’t for “saturday afternoon picnics in the park” that got viewers interest and they know that..and so don’t we. They think they can script and edit the viewers eyebealls.
Because the show got 5.8 million viewers. If T feels as tho she’s being ‘bullied’ by Bravo, why would she want to continue with them for another season? Didn’t T actually say that she hasn’t been bullied by C?
Don’t want to argue with you because it’s a show and I want to be respectful to everyone, even if we don’t see it the same way.
Anyhoo, I look at it this way. It’s a source of employment and a nice one at that, so why should she leave her job for Caroline or Jac or Katfish or Mel? I wouldn’t..
Hi Jersey. I see this as a forum for healthy debate/discussion. I’m not here to argue w anyone. Even tho we have very different views, I respect your right to have yours. I’m not saying T should leave the show. I’m just pointing out that if T felt like she was in a bad situation and Bravo was at fault, she would leave. I’m not a huge fan of T (surprise! Lol) but even I’ll admit she’s smart enough to walk away if that were true. She said she hasn’t been bullied and it’s just her fans who think that. So why not believe her?
RU – I just don’t agree. I really think T would say so if she felt that. Weird that her fans claim everything she says is true but she says that and it’s not? I think in order for her to be bullied she would have to not be a bully
*bully herself. Do you REALLY think she has done nothing wrong at all??
Like if you’re an attorney and you HATE arguing but it’s like, “welp, I need that check!”
I don’t buy it. I think Teresa is actually quite smart, knows exactly what’s happening here, KNOWS THIS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE AS BULLYING, and knows that the WHOLE POINT of the show is for these women to be generally awful to each other (see all other RH franchises).
REALLY YOU GUYS?!?!?
teresa has also said she has felt attacked by her and has felt bullied by her in other interviews but of course you’re gonna take one thing from what she said at the reunion.” oh she said she wasn’t bullied,” oh spare me. the world sees that teresa is being bullied. it’s not something that anyone made up. it’s a fact. all you gotta do is open your eyes and see and stop being so blinded by don caros, jac and melissa B.S. i know this is hard for you to understand but teresa has alot of pride and doesn’t like to seem weak. she doesn’t like to be called a victim. notice she did say she was being bullied before she retracted? you didn’t catch that part now did you.
She only retracted her statement because she couldn’t even come up with ONE example!! Lol.
I’d say she’s definitely been ganged up on, but AGAIN, on a show where this type of drama is THE WHOLE POINT I do not stand behind describing this as “bullying” at a time when we need to be using that term to raise awareness on what is happening to our kids, in school and online. You know, the “bullying” that is making kids come home and hang themselves. A little different than what Teresa goes through, which she gets paid thousands of dollars to do, which she signs up for year after year., which she gives almost as good as she gets (see seasons 1 and 2).
just because TEresa isn’t screaming victim doesn’t mean they didn’t conspire to get her ..
The fact that BRAVO is defending her says it all to me.
BRAVO I would like to know where Teresa’s apology is from you for trying to ruin her reputation and family?
me too
It’s probably right next to the paycheck they’ve given her for numerous years that has allowed a HW from NJ to write several books and launch several product lines….things she never would’ve done had she not come on the show.
and make a lot of bucks for Bravo Suri.
That conversation with Jac in Napa while she was getting her hair done – classic bullying, trying to isolate Teresa from her friends. That comment to Melissa – that Teresa would not be happy until the divorce papers were signed. Classic bullying – isolating her from her family. Caroline has systematically carried out a thoughtful, deliberate and sustained campaign to isolate Teresa and force others into shunning her. IF that is not bullying, nothing is.
That actually isn’t bullying. Speaking your mind about someone isn’t bullying.
She didnt just speak her mind…
Suri, when your mind is filled with the intent to cause harm, to hurt others emotionally, to cause strife in another’s personal relationships, to weaken interpersonal bonds, to humiliate, to cause public shame, to bring ridicule upon another’s family, to willfully spread lies, to extend your hatred not just to your target but to your target’s children…when those are the things that are in your mind and you choose to speak them…YES, it is bullying.
Hi Cara. In that case, T would be the biggest bully of them all since she tried to isolate M by telling the others not to talk to her, etc when she came on the show. I do agree with you in the essence that when your mind is filled w hate, etc. But we disagree on who is to blame for that. I choose to remember how angry T was that M came on the show and how she seemed obsessed with saying something negative about her at every turn.
When did we see Teresa do this? Give me the season/episode number please. I’m tired of the hearsay being used to crucify Teresa.
If I didn’t SEE her do it or HEAR it come out of her mouth (while SEEING her mouth moving), then as far as I’m concerned, it didn’t happen.
Cajsa, the isolation factor is so intriguing. It does seem Caroline prefers to insulate herself with primarily family, which is not terrible to me except she seems to demand others around her (family) do so as well. If this pattern of isolating and shunning a non-blood relative who gets close to her family (while heavily reinforcing and promoting the in-family ties) continues then I don’t feel any interest in watching her storyline in S5 provided she returns. On the other hand, quasi- celebrities seem to be embraced by the Manzos… I suppose if you have some connection or status to offer them then you are not a threat and instead should be embraced (because through these “friendships,” the entire family can be lifted toward greater success.) Similar to how a commenter here awhile ago mentioned the huge difference in Caroline’s excitement toward Alexa Ray Joel versus outright contempt of Lindsay for Albie.
Caroline is meaner than a junk yard dog
just because Teresa can hold her own doesn’t mean that Caroline isn’t TRYING to bully her. When FOUR people (and usually more) are all piling on one person-shouting and pointing fingers, that’s bullying. Caroline has also tried to get in the middle of Teresa’s FAMILY business. BUTT OUT BIG RED
I think we should look at the bigger picture. WHY has everyone turned against T? This started long before M. T has to take responsibility for what she’s done wrong too.
Just as soon as someone can tell her what exactly she has done I am sure she would.The funny thing to me is the first shot fired on the bully war came from a damn article that used quotes from the show.Tre is not the one that yelled bully.Caroline sticks to that you know what you did crap instead of just spitting it out.WTF did Tre do to her anyway?
Etta – They’ve been trying to tell T what she’s done wrong the whole season! She refuses to take any responsibility. When C and T sat on C’s front steps and C calmly told her that T’s comments in the book were hurtful, she just kept blaming C for taking it wrong. I truly feel if T had been sincere and acknowledged C’s feelings, they could’ve moved forward. This is just one example.
SHE DIDN’T WANT TO INVEST AND LEND HER NAME (FAME) TO BLK
Just like when Jack died in the Titanic.Sometimes you just have to follow the script Suri.
YEP
LOL! To say C is a bully is to say T is intimidated by her, which I do not believe.
Definition of bully-
Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force him or her to do what one wants.
Speaking your mind about someone, trying to get them to see how they’re hurting everyone around them, etc, is NOT being a bully.
exactly!!
Stop replying to yourself.
“Use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone)”
That’s what Don Caro has been doing all season. Nice try.
Replying to myself? Oh of course, because if anyone has a differing opinion they must all be the same person. Get a grip.
caroline using intimidation tactics,yelling,namecalling. trying to control everyone’s emotions towards teresa, planting seeds about her to get people to dislike her, gossiping about her, butting into teresa’s relationship with her brother and getting inbetween jac and teresa’s friendship and letting her grown as kids attack teresa. caroline getting close with producers and producers using their power and editing skills to hurt teresa. that IS bullying.
UNBELIEVABLE RIGHT ???????????????
Fair enough. Then when part 3 shows T screaming in someone’s face, grabbing someone’s arm and pointing her finger at someone, that makes her a bully too then, right? Just checking if the rules will change by then.
I think Teresa thinks that anyone who is smarter than she is is a “bully,” which means that the entire world is made up of people who are bullying Teresa Giudice.
I bet she’d feel a lot less threatened if started hanging out exclusively with people who, like her, have an IQ of less than 80.
if *she*
love!
Thank you!
LOL Samantha!! I’m so curious to see how her fans will spin it when they watch her get up screaming, pointing her finger in someone’s face on part 3. THAT is actually being a bully.
Oh, I think they’re working on how to spin it even as we speak.
funny because that is how teresa fans feel about you and melissa trolls. you wannabe melissa lovers come in here and try to spin and twist logic and facts and we all see right through you. it doesn’t work when don caro does it, definitely doesn’t work when fake melissa does it and it’s hilarious to even think that drunk jac even tries to do it. but guess what. none of your brainwashing tactics work!! your prophets are nutjobs and bullies. that’s it. deal with it.
RU – Nowhere did I say I was a Melissa fan. Actually I’ve said numerous times they are all to blame. I’m amused at the fact that I’m just here stating my opinions and you feel the need to call me names and accuse me of trying to brainwash people. I’ve been respectful to everyone, whether I agree or not. I especially find it funny that you say these things on a post about bullying. Did I do something to you? Or do you just hate anyone who doesn’t agree with you?
It’s very hard to take T fans seriously when they’re calling ppl names and hurling insults for the simple fact we don’t share the same views. Of course, this isn’t all of you. Just the ones who I’ve seen attacking, name calling, insulting.
I cann`t speak for all of her fans but I would have stood up and cheered.
UNLIKE THE RHODES SCHOLARS MANZO’S AND LARITA”S , GORGA”S AND WAIKILI”S LOLOLOL
Yes, everyone else on the show is so high IQ. lol
TICK AS TIEVES
EGGMIT
LIBARY
FAMBLY
Samantha, it actually was not Teresa who claimed she was bullied. Did you know that? Or were you just too busy hating Teresa and making shit up like you always do? She actually told Andy at the reunion that she DIDN’T think she was bullied by Caroline but that her fans believe that she was. She said nothing about feeling threatened either. That was also you making more shit up.
So when you say “I think Teresa thinks that anyone who is smarter than she is is a “bully,””…what you are really saying is you didn’t THINK at all. So you have no business commenting on anyone’s IQ.
“Pay attention, PUH-LEESE!” -Danielle Staub
This is what I have been trying to say, not even Teresa will say she’s being bullied because she knows it’s par for the course!
TERESA IS THE BULLY!!!!!!!!
You spelled Caroline wrong.
lol, indeed! hahaha.
Agreed!
Just because Teresa can handle it, doesnt mean that it is not bullying.
THAT RIGHT !!!!
What about if the person doesn’t even think she’s being bullied? Is that still considered bullying? What about if the person can’t even give an example of how they’re being bullied, is it still bullying? I think Joe G. is the only real bully on the show. He calls his wife and daughters names and tells them to shut up constantly. And when Teresa wants to get advice from him (yikes, advice from Juicy!) his usual response is shut up or who cares!!! What a dreamboat!!
Its so beyond obvious who the friends/associates/family are on here. Its sad. I wonder if Andy and Bravo take into account that these women manipulate social media by doing things like always saying they hate a certain blog and its owner yet still come back daily to plant seeds. They also buy many twitter followers so it looks like they are popular. Melissa and Jac are the worst of the whole bunch. I believe with no Melissa Gorga then Caroline and Teresa would have worked out their issues. Melissa’s constant lying poisoned the whole show. I’ve never had such little respect for a mother before Melissa Gorga put her slutty self on display. She’s truly pathetic. I hope she gets a divorce. I hope she has a life filled with misery. Go away bitch. Melissa you are a liar. You met joe when you were screwing his friend not by an act of fate. We learn more lies everyday
Of course, if we dont agree with all of you about T, then we must be involved in the Bravo conspiracy and be related or friends of the other housewives. On the same token, that must mean you are a friend, relative or purchased Twitter follower of Teresa Giudice.
OR
We see Teresa for what she really is, which has nothing to do with being bullied or mistreated. She’s a passive agressive woman who has spoken a poorly about everyone else as they have her. She’s only a victim when it comes to putting up with her jackass of a husband.
But when T talks bad about someone, she’s justified, right. She must have a good reason. Maybe Caroline was tired of putting up with Teresas shit and decided to start calling her out on it.
I DIDNT SEE TERESA TALK BAD ABOUT THEM .. I SAW THEM DISECT HER
Really,what show are you watching?
Hoodie, what “shit” of Teresa’s was Caroline putting up with? What needed to be called out? When has Teresa talked bad about anyone on the show? I heard her call Caroline a “c*nt” immediately following the Napa fight but that’s all I can think of. And YES there was a reason for it – she was enraged and we all say things when we are THAT angry. Caroline said horrible things to her too during that fight. What else has Teresa said though? About any of them? Because I don’t think the character limit here would allow me to list what has been said about Teresa by the others.
You missed the point hoodie417.You know this blog is mostly posted by Teresa favored fans.And while the owner of the this blog is fair and open she takes a lot of hits from people that do not like Teresa.I am willing to bet your next tax return that more then one cast member or member of their family has come on here to start trouble.I have read this blog for along time before I ever started posting.The people here disagreed at times but never with the hate and anger that some people of late has brought.
so do i……..hate that woman with a passion.
this is not the blog i responded to i was referring to melissa gorge
Sorry the producers of RHONJ have done nothing this season to give them any credibility. Losers!
I love that photo of Caroline`s face.That says it all.I wish Ellen would do an add in of that ambush like she did for rhobh.
Caroline and Lauren are both mean spirited and nasty. They both have high opinions of themselves and consider all other forms of life outside of their family-”beneath them”. Lapband got her nasty personality directly from her mother.Caroline is not mad about a comment in a cookbook-she is po’d about the fight her sons were involved in in Punta Cana and blames Teresa for it–her “babies” beat a man half to death and were held by the police for a few days. The topic is forbidden to be discussed publicly as Bravo is also named in the lawsuit being brought aginst them. Caroline has no control over Teresa and it drives her crazy-she totally controls Jac-she has to monitor her so she does not spill the family dirt during one of her drunken crazy tweet attacks-dirt that could lead to several family members to face crimminal charges. Her husband Al has had a mistress “Jill” for quite a while-you can see he has zero interest in her-watch his face when she talks about him retiring-he is looking for the closest exit. Ashley was shipped off to prevent her from spilling the beans about Jac’s past-a not very well kept secret,but there is a lot more than just a stripper job involved that they want kept hidden. I feel a little sorry for Chris Laurita-he has 2 young sons to protect from their obviously mentally ill mother, a family business with shady practices which has landed him/family in court where they could face crimminal charges and possibly jail time(this he participated in freely-no pity here),an out of control step=daughter, and a sister who has alienated half of their siblings. IF he cheated-who could blame him? I don;t condone it-but can understand where it came from.These people have a lot more and bigger issues to deal with than Teresa does-but they try to put the light on her to keep their dirty little secrets in the dark-but the sun is starting to shine on them and it is only a matter of time and they will be right out there center stage. The Gorgas are not worth talking about-we have all seen through their bs and the same for the Wakilies. None of these people would have any attention if they were not associated with Teresa-she is the star and it justs bugs them to no end.
SPOT ON!! I have to add: Caroline’s resentment toward Teresa began when Teresa got the cookbook deal that Caroline wanted. Publishers were just not interested in Caroline and the seed was planted. Then the Punta Cana fiasco gave her the perfect opportunity to blame Teresa for something wrong in her life. She had already latched onto Melissa’s hate train at that point but the fight with the boys was her personal ammo against Teresa.
Everything you said here is GOLD
CAROLINE MANZO IS A CLOWN!!!
Sorry. I had to get that out. I feel much better now.
A definition of bullying
“Bullying is a compulsive need to displace aggression and is achieved by the expression of inadequacy (social, personal, interpersonal, behavioural, professional) by projection of that inadequacy onto others through control and subjugation (criticism, exclusion, isolation etc). Bullying is sustained by abdication of responsibility (denial, counter-accusation, pretence of victimhood) and perpetuated by a climate of fear, ignorance, indifference, silence, denial, disbelief, deception, evasion of accountability, tolerance and reward (eg promotion) for the bully.”
Those who can, do. Those who can’t, bully.
Tim Field, 1999
Just bc the reciever of the bullying is strong, dosent mean that the bully is any less of a bully. Caros behavier is what it is.
If that kind of eplanation was true, then she has to admit to atleast to be bullying Danielle, who didnt even dare to walk trough town bc of that woman.
It is not bullying. Caroline just doesn’t take fools lightly or put up with b.s. she is a strong, supportive person and has had more than enough of teresa’s stupidity. rather than be two faced, she says it like it is. i like her style.
Caroline is a total bully, and she is raising her hypocritical daughter to be the same
and lauren makes fun of teresa????…”Spell it”…. PEEK Lauren, PEEEEEEEK
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Yeah, she’s not one to talk. Her tweets are always loaded with spelling and grammatical errors so when she asked Teresa to spell “napalm” I thought to myself “She’s GOT to be kidding me!”. Of all people, LAUREN is calling someone out on the use of proper English? And I know she was trying to mock Teresa when she misspelled it but a lot of viewers didn’t get it and she made herself look like an idiot.
This was also the same person who at age 20 didn’t know the definitions of democracy and dictatorship. *rolling my eyes*
She wasn’t calling someone out on the use of proper English, the point she was making was that Teresa does not write her own blogs. She was asking Teresa to define and spell the word napalm, a word that doesn’t seem fitting coming from a woman who uses ingredientses (or ingrediences) in her ‘recipes’ and doesn’t know what the slang abbreviation for coincidence is.
You know what, hoodie? You almost make half a point here. In her verbal speech Teresa screws up all the time – we know it and Teresa knows it. But when she writes – when ANYONE writes – there is a nice tool called “spellcheck”. Teresa has said several times that she puts it to good use BECAUSE she knows she isn’t good with English. There are also tools that correct one’s grammar, style and syntax. So while “napalm” may not be something she would say in day-to-day conversation (as Lauren so kindly proved), she very well could put it in her blog correctly. And she had an explanation as to WHY she did (she had heard John Mayer refer to Jessica Simpson as “sexual napalm” and thought it was a cool analogy).
MY point was that Lauren Manzo is not someone who should be asking other people to spell words correctly on the spot as if SHE herself is so good at spelling. Lauren doesn’t even bother using spellcheck, which in itself proves that A) she is lazy and B) Teresa is smarter than Lauren.
I sent my idea to WWHL show suggestions:
I think AllaboutTRH.com and Famewhorgas.com (mostly team Teresa) should go up against two anti-Teresa bloggers to do a debate like presidential style (Perfect timing given the election) on WWHL and let viewers vote who presented the better argument. Andy can give all the topics at hand. Maybe 2 on 2.. And address all issues so each can stare their case.
State*
This will also bring attention to the blogs so people can finally get the real inside scoop that the general audience doesn’t know
I guess it all depends on your definition of bullying. Caroline and Teresa one-on-one, no, it’s a fair fight. Caroline inciting others to pile on, stirring the pot with others and fanning the flames with the family, of having her children join in–well to me, that’s bullying.
It doesn’t matter if the person being bullied can take it or not. Caroline’s tactics this season scream Bully.
They conspire against her . And its all of them . So yes they are bullying her..Not saying Teresa cant hold her own though .. But how much is one woman able to take? # Team Teresa
@ U CANT HIDE STUPID LOVE THE POST AND QUOTE
I feel like no one here watches the show. You all have seen the way Teresa has treated the rest of the cast this season and last season, right? I am by no means saying that Jacqueline, Caroline, Melissa, and Kathy are right but it has been very tit for tat but everyone on this website seems to gang up on the other women. I have seen all of these women have their own fair share of rude comments towards one another. Give me a break and stop blindly following people.
Name one time that Caroline attacked Melissa, or Melissa attacked Kathy, or Kathy attacked Jacqueline? Can’t, can you?
Caroline and Jacqueline barely come in to contact with Melissa and Kathy unless the entire group is together…they have nothing to argue about
Greg, that’s exactly the point. They have nothing to argue about with each other because their entire storyline revolves around Teresa. There are miniscule side stories that involve other topics (Lauren’s weight, Kathy’s baking, Melissa’s singing, etc) but beyond that, the ENTIRE show is Teresa vs the others.
And I resent the “blindly following” comment. Most of us are not blind to Teresa’s flaws. I know she is not a saint and I’m not lining up to place a halo on her head. The thing is, SHE knows she’s not perfect nor innocent as well. That is part of why I like her. Melissa, on the other hand, wants everyone to think she is untouchable. Deny deny deny. Caroline will blame everything wrong in her life on Teresa. Oh wait…she already has! Check this gem out:
“I hold Teresa responsible for the pain in my life and the relationships that are hurting.” – Caroline Manzo, Season 4 Episode 18
The reason I am pro-Teresa is because for two seasons, after everything we’ve watched on the show, read in their blogs, after reading their Twitters and whatever blogs we read and magazine articles that get put out…there is STILL no plausible excuse for this four-on-one gang up that has gone on. Five if you count Andy Cohen. If you add in Lauren, the Manzo boys, Greg Bennett, the husbands, the Marco sisters, THEIR husbands, Rosie, Melissa’s makeup artist George Miguel, Bonnie Grippe, Donna Marco, Ashlee Holmes, Wendy Williams, Anderson Cooper, and Teresa’s OWN BROTHER…that’s 23 against one. And nobody has come up with a solid REASON as to why Teresa is such a horrid human being. They only hint at things or give bull shit non-reasons like “she changed after she got married” or some crap like that.
I’m going to need photographic evidence of her clubbing a baby seal to believe that 23 people have a common reason to do what they have been doing to her and her family for the past two years.
Cara, you on are on fire.
I am truly amazed by the polite reason you have tenaciously brought to this board. Thank you.
Cara,you are my new hero.I was going to applaud and say Bravo but that word no longer has the same meaning to me.
Thank you both so much! XOXOXO
greg, YOU need to watch the show. YOU’RE obviously not watching.
There are two types of fans of this show:
Team Teresa
And
Anti-Teresa
There are barely any pro Melissa or pro jac or pro Caroline (although she used to be popular before she turned into godzilla) or pro what’s her face
So you see, it’s all abou Teresa. Melissa shouldn’t flatter herself because its a Trtesa hater that will take her side, not a Melissa lover.
Get it?
Teresa*
Thou just spake the gospel.
Third team~
Team Just-in-it-for-the-Entertainment: we realize that they would ALL do just about anything to be on TV and we therefore do not like or respect ANY of them. We’re just in it for the ENTERTAINMENT.
It’s why Andy doesn’t give two fucks about what any of us say or think, as long as the ratings stay up.
Get it???
“Caroline has even been called out by many viewers for bullying former friend Teresa Giudice throughout the season”
That is not a reasonable argument now is it?!! Caroline’s fans can say the same thing about T.
So, what fans think or say doesn’t mean they convey reality..It is only a matter of opinion..
“So, what fans think or say doesn’t mean they convey reality..It is only a matter of opinion..”
OMG we have a winner folks!! Thank you Sana, a solid point in a sea of fuckery.
I think we need to get over the hang up about the term “bullying”.
From Wikipedia:
Bullying may be defined as the activity of repeated, aggressive behavior intended to hurt another person, physically or mentally.
From Webster:
Noisily domineering; tending to browbeat (intimidate by harsh words or looks) others.
Using those definitions, Caroline most definitely has bullied Teresa. It says nothing about the strength/weakness of the recipient. These definitions speak only of the behaviors of the aggressor. They also make no mention of age. Bullying can occur in childhood, adolescence and adulthood. It can cross socio-economic lines, does not occur strictly within one religion or ethnic group (those factors can actually exacerbate bullying tendencies) and it certainly can be affected by gender and sexuality.
Bullying is a UNIVERSAL concept and it should be taken seriously regardless of who the victim is.
Putting aside the nasty name-calling for a minute, just lies against Teresa that Caroline has been spewing since the end of last season can be clearly defined as “repeated behavior intended to hurt another person”. Examples:
“We were never really friends. She was an acquaintance… We vacationed together. We were in the same crew. We went to dinners a lot, but was there ever a time I would pick up the phone and say, ‘What are you doing?’ No. So there’s no friendship, and I’m not bothered by it.” -on the Gayle King Show…lying
Here, she contradicts what she said above:
“I’ve been in the car with her when she was on the phone with her mother, poisoning her mother’s mind against her brother and Melissa and Kathy.” –one of her season 4 TH interviews
So they were never friends and never chatted on the phone in a “Hey, how are you?” kind of way but they WERE close enough where they rode in the car together and Teresa felt comfortable enough to say bad things about Melissa/Joey/Kathy right in front of Caroline? One of these two statements is a lie. Actually, they are BOTH lies. They WERE friends and Teresa never said these things about her family.
“I’ve never heard one kind word out of Teresa’s mouth regarding Melissa. I have heard golddigger, whore, she was a stripper. I cannot believe the length this person would go to hurt.” -season 4..lying
“I think Teresa has an agenda to drive a wedge against myself and family members, especially Dina.” -season 4…lying
And the most atrocious one (IMO)
“I hold Teresa responsible for the pain in my life and the relationships that are hurting.”-season 4…LYING and BLAMING Teresa for everything that is wrong in her life!!!
All of these things were said repeatedly with the intention of hurting Teresa. The definition of bullying.
great comment ….
the epitome of ‘bullying’ ..
all of them …
‘gangstalkers’
caroline is desperate to get back on the show …
bad rep’ in jersey ..
legal prob’s ..
she figures she will try to ‘appear’ neutral now but it’s too late …
she will be forever defined as a ‘bully’ in the viewers mind ..horrible bully of a daughter too …
they are hated …
THAT’S it …game over…lol
buh-bye
Im so sick and tired of these producer’s and Bravo are you Efffin kidding me that producer that said that on Twitter should be fired on the dam spot!! That is the most pathetic Efffin BS I have ever heard now their Efffin promoting people Bullying and it’s ok if the person who is reciving the bullying is strong and can hold their own unfuckin beliveable im sorry about that word but im so pissed over this Bravo and candy Cohen BS!!! The only thing fuckin Candy ass Cohen and Bravo cares about is if your fuckin gay and rating personally I dont like him shoving his Gay lifestyle down our dam throats!!! OMG and Rosie the way this bitch threatin T’s life and the way she went off the deep end that bitch is beyond Efffin pysco T should have pressed charges aginest that bitch!! How could they have brought that pysco bitch out on the stage after that they should of all lost their dam job over that BS to BUT once agin Candy Ass only allowed that crazy bitch on stage was because she fuckin gay Im so sick and tired of these idiots acting like their so innocent and what they do and say are fine and they can stoop as low as they want to but T better not open her mouth or they will all gang up and eyebrow beat her like she some kind of animal!!! These mother fuckers are sick sick sick and im so sorry for these words BUT im so PISSED PISSED PISSED at the way they treat this women her husband her daughters and even her poor lil elderly parents what kind of sick mother Effers are these people they are pure Efffin EVIL and I hope they ALL get what they DESERVE and KARMA kick them dead in their asses!!! Exspecially Melissa and Joe Marco and Katfish and her nasty ass POS husband!! Ok sorry for the Rant but im PISSED and SICKof all these FAKE ASS BITCHES!!!
If it were Caroline vs. Teresa, I’d say: fair match. But the past 2 seasons, we know that’s not the case. It’s been a minimum of 4, sometimes 6 (and if you include the husbands: Rich & Joe- 8), so that is where the sense of bullying, or ganging up, comes in.
In addition, it’s Bravo’s favorable editing toward the Manzos & unfavorable editing toward the Guidices. Then, Bravo denies it all, has rigged polls & WWHL guests that are known Teresa-haters. Andy’s disdain for Teresa & Joe-for whatever reason- is almost palatable; quite frankly “if” Andy is the director/producer of Bravo, I believe that would make him a “professional” & as such, he should behave in that manner, ie: whomever he likes or dislikes should not be obvious to the viewer. Note to Andy: It is!
Caroline is cast as the wise-sage throughout RHONJ which is sad as it’s a disservice to her- she could REALLY use some sage advice right now.
If Bravo is correct & Caroline hasn’t bullied Teresa, then shame on Bravo for editing the show to make it look like she is & like everybody is ganging up on Teresa.
Oh, and I suppose we can also thank Cat Rodriguez for producing this season,who was canned by Bravo after they were done with her, they seem to do this with both staff & housewives-a trend, perhaps?
Regardless, bullying is what’s coming across & Bravo condoning it? And awarding the Mazel of the Year to the biggest bully that made physical threats to Teresa – well, they’re lucky she has fans or this show would simply be kaput!
Goodness knows, we don’t watch out of loyalty to a company that not only allows such heinous behavior, or denies it, but condones it.
Jill Zarin tried to round up support to gang up on Bethenney and the fans turned on her/fired. Caroline was successful in getting the cast to gang up on Teresa (matching catch phrases/blogs/tactics) and for some reason BRAVO/Andy try to protect her (questionable poll results/screened comments BRAVO blog/softball questions @ Reunion/double standard.
I don’t get it
I don’t like it
Just because a person refuses to allow others to bully them does not make those who are bullying innocent. AND what is MOST LAUGHABLE about Bravo is their Production team.
Exactly!
Just because a bully doesn’t succeed doesn’t mean they are not bullies. The word is way overused these days, but Caroline is the personification of that word.
Look at how she treats the other people in her life. She badgers and brow beats people until she gets her way. Danielle (kicked off the show), Jacqueline (no longer friends with Danielle), and Lindsay (no longer dating Albie). She’s been trying very hard all season with Teresa. She hasn’t succeeded. In fact it only backfired. But again, that doesn’t mean she didn’t try!
I think it is bulling and Mean Girl, 4-5 women against 1. Don Caro the leader of the pack. For sure bullying.
They can laugh all they want but in my opinion Caroline is a bully. Her continued obnoxious behavior was disgusting and classless all season. You can choose not to like someone, but you don’t behave and say the things she did to Teresa and about Teresa especially to her family especially at Caroline’s age. That is what makes her the hag Teresa called her.
caroline is getting ‘even’ with the because the is friends with dina, who hasn’t spoken to her in the longest time. it’s so obvious.
*tre
This is all so incredibly slimey –
With all these mob, sheriff, police department, Bernie Kerik and god knows what other underworld connections that are going on, I am beginning to wonder if Bravo isn’t part of this “net” – I’m sure the lawyers are on top of it, but they’d better watch out for their connections – it looks entirely possible that there is a real mess under the covers.
I was beginning to wonder that too!!!! Why has Caroline been given so many business opportunities when she keeps failing over and over again? Why hasn’t Jac’s bankruptcy fraud been reported in the media? Now they’re setting her up to exploit her son’s autism diagnosis. Is she going to start her own charity? That will be her new source of income. It wouldn’t surprise me if those types of people had infiltrated Bravo. They’re infiltrated everything else in NYC.
I did some digging into the claims M has a bench warrant.
I’ve attached the 2008 judicial order which states a misdemeanor case prior to 2008, with no activity on it for 5 years, can be dismissed by an administrative order. A simple phone call to PB County Court could activate the administrative order process, therefore dismissing this case. The store she allegedly shoplifted from doesn’t even exist any longer, therefore there is no complainant.
Rumors that she has an open bench warrant are just that, rumors. It’s not true. As you’ll see below, it isn’t even possible.
Hope this clears up some of the lies/rumors out there.
http://15thcircuit.co.palm-beach.fl.us:8080/c/document_library/get_file?uuid=b05ce6af-3a03-4bc2-b6f3-14df19c8d91e&groupId=10136
Sorry, just saw this has been confirmed by radar also.
Except that her case is not a misdemeanor, it’s a felony. She shoplifted more than $1000 worth of merchandise making it grand larceny. And the fact that the store is no longer open doesn’t make a difference. That is not the matter. The matter at hand is that her warrant is for her failure to appear in court.
I mean, if this turns out to be true then great. Good for her and move on with life. But there are still loose ends and details that make no sense just like her loose ends and details about her career at Lookers.
She had an open bench warrant because she jumped bail in 1997 whe she was charged with retail theft. It was just dismissed because of the five year law, but also because the store she robbed, Burstein’s, went out of business and the state could no longer prove its case.
She and her sister flew to Florida last Monday and that’s probably when they took care of it.
It wasn’t a rumor. She did have a warrant and she was arrested for shoplifting in 1997. Basically she jumped bail and got away with it.
Exactly, and now all the sudden Radar Online (Melissa’s go-to celeb on line rag) have stories “case dismissed”. Puh-lease, imagine if this was Teresa – they’d be all over her case. God, I can’t wait until this reunion is over – not continuing with this crap any longer.
Late last night I happened upon the first time Melissa was shown on RHWONJ and wow what a difference! She spoke with such malice regarding Teresa and Joe and didnt try to hide her hate for them. Either she’s truly found Jesus or her PR people have trained her well in changing her image in the following episodes when she interviews. One statement that stood out was
Teresa will show up for the reception (for the baptism) because that bitch will show up for a meal if she isnt paying for it” That’s pretty ugly and not the Melissa we all see interviewing now. It also reminded me how ugly her sisters are and I dont mean looks, I mean inside ugly! This is not a woman who wants peace in her family for her husbands sake. She is the fuel that keeps this fire going! Didnt mean to change the subject, but rewatching that episode brought it all home for me!