Lisa Vanderpump Does Not Hold Grudges As Kyle Claims; Talks About Their Friendship’s Changes!
The friendship between Real Housewives of Beverly Hills stars Lisa and Kyle seems to keep getting tested. Most recently, Lisa got hurt that Kyle did not defend vocalize any support when Camille accused Lisa of not owning her restaurant, SUR. The two had a sit down on this week’s show and Kyle said she felt Lisa holds grudges, and does not defend her because Lisa is a strong woman who can hold her own. Lisa agrees, but says it’d be nice for Kyle as a friend to demonstrate that she still backs her up.
Lisa is taking to her Bravo blog to talk about Kyle’s recounting to Mauricio of what happened with Camille in Vegas, and also talks about the parameters of the friendship as it stands currently! Lisa writes:
As we start this episode with Kyle saying she was coming over to my house, relaying the story of Vegas to Mauricio, it appeared to me that her recollection was slightly different to mine. Anyway we decided to talk just us, without the intervention of the others.
First let me be very clear here — if I held a grudge I wouldn’t probably speak to many of these women ever again. But relationships evolve, dynamics change, and sometimes loyalties divide.
In regard to Kyle, I always believed that whatever has transpired between the two of us, our friendship was always worth saving. Many situations that have taken place — the first tea party, the reunion, witnessing the conversations between her and Taylor — have all manifested in a substantial change in my feelings towards her. I regard her differently. Now if that is interpreted by her as me holding a grudge, then I do not have the power to change that. I personally feel it is a passive aggressive swipe once more. And it’s also hard for me to understand how she recalls the many issues as “petty.” I would never minimize the feelings of somebody close to me. . .
Whenever any of these instances were brought up, it was always treated with a slightly dismissive attitude by herself and Mauricio, never truly validating the depth of hurt that ensued after some of these instances. So I voice my opinion, but sincerely wondered if any of it would resonate. I can’t deny how we can laugh and we still continue to have moments where caution is thrown to the wind and we resume the carefree relationship that once was. But when you really hold a friend close, you need that reassurance that if all goes awry then they will support you. I rarely need it, as I am a strong but sensitive woman with an emotionally uncomplicated life. But I value that quality and will always repay it.
Whose side are you on? Do you think Lisa is being too over sensitive, or is Kyle at fault here for not being a loyal friend?
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Okay Lisa, keep telling yourself that you don’t hold grudges while you instruct Kyle about the specific apology words you want her to give you to please tour massive ego.
In the meantime you are well on your way to be the next Caroline Manzo
I disagree look how long it took Adrienne to get out her apology Andy even timed it. Kyle kept saying well I am not perfect your not perfect and lets just move forward. It was unbelievable Lisa had to spell it out for her that Hey just tell me you are sorry, Kyle and Adrienne are unbelievably immature and narcissistic IDK how Lisa or Yolanda can be in the same room as them for more then 5 mins w/o wanting to scream.
They don’t need to be, they are uber rich, they don’t need this show. Yolanda is the perfect friend for Lisa, she doesn’t know about anything yet but blindy supports Lisa, that is the kind of friends Lisa wants.
I am sure in return Lisa will do the same for Yolanda.
Lexy,
I agree. The uber rich not so much. The only one who might be uber rich is Adrienne and her fortune might be in disarray as well, at least the rumors say that.
But, on Yo Yo’s blind support of Lisa is disgusting to me. She cannot pass it off any say it is cultural her ability to be snide and dry. She is being vindictive on purpose.
Lisa disgusted me on Monday. Who does that to a friend? Repeat after me…Lisa looks like she is in kindergarten. She is patently mean and manipulative to her friends. She picks weak friends. Kyle is weak, IMO. I do think Kyle likely would be manipulated into saying something.
Next to Lisa all these ladies are weak. Brandi is weak, but a chosen few think she isn’t because of her mouth.
They need some real women in there. Most women would never take Lisa’s diatribe.
I completely disagree that Kyle is weak. In fact, she’s very much strong, independent and her own woman and I think that’s what Lisa doesn’t like about Kyle. Kyle doesn’t bark on command, she does and say what she wants.
Van,
Maybe not but it seemed as if Lisa thought she could pressure Kyle and Kyle started to cry.
I like Kyle a lot.
Yolanda doesn’t blindly support Lisa. She’s been friends with Lisa for awhile and she just met this other women. Of course she’s gonna stand by her friend…..she’s not Kyle.
Yolanda, does not blindy support anyone. She and Lisa are older and much wiser. They have both been around and have seen this all before. Neither one needs Bravo’s paycheck, so they call the shots as they are. The rest of the ladies would be wise to watch these pros and learn something!
Mary,
I know. I felt so sorry for Kyle at that point. Who on God’s green earth would ever do that to a friend? It is hideous. Lisa is Caroline Manzo.
Lisa looked manipulative and vindictive in that scene.
i so agree ramona is on her way too.!
I just don’t understand why Lisa is so obsessed with Kyle. She has been carrying this grudge for ever, surely she should understand Kyle doesn’t care for her friendship that much to give what she wants: Blind Royalty. Why doesn’t she just move on? She has YoFo now!
I think Kyle is trying to keep some long standing friendships but what Lisa really wants, but she won’t admit it to it because it would make her look petty and immature, is she wants Kyle only on her side and to severe her friendship with Adrienne. After the first season fighting between Camille and Kyle that was ugly, I can 100% see Kyle not wanting to go after Camille since they are good friends now too. Lisa corrected Camille immediately, they moved on quite quick for these ladies, so why would Kyle pile on Camille after Lisa gave her the facts? At the beginning of the season Kyle clearly took Lisa’s side after the reunion, told Adrienne to apologize and asked Lisa if she wanted her help with that. If Kyle next week said, I’ll end my friendship with Adrienne and only support you Lisa, Lisa would be fine. Lots if hypocrisy being promoted.
Funny on RHNJ commenters are always saying the housewives should not have to pick sides and should stay neutral to keep their long standing friendships (like crazy Jac did not) but when Kyle tries to stay friends with both long-standing friends, it is not acceptable. At the Vegas dinner, Lisa took a mean, nasty dig at Kim, but Kyle let it go- can you imagine if Kyle said such a remark- Lisa would go on and on. Kyle didn’t tell Kim about it after Vegas causing another RHBH argument with Kim calling Lisa…why did you say that about me…it was just let go like Lisa can not do with anything this season. I just don’t remember Lisa being so petty before.
Lisa is very calculating. I find it hard to believe she actually cares. I’m not fooled. Lisa plays the media and fans like a fiddle. She has targets of her own this season and a mouth piece in Brandi. Les see whi Lisa targets at the reunion. I have my suspicions…..
who do you think Lisa targeted at previous reunions? all she seems to do is defend her own character not attack others.
I totally agree!!! She got blindsided by adrienne
Mickey,
I agree! Lisa is calculating.
I don’t get how Lisa is calculating??
Lisa targets, you have her mixed up with Adrienne!
Lisa needs to accept the fact that she and Kyle no longer have that Season 1 friendship. Kyle prefers the morally corrupt. She doesn’t want someone with a better lifestyle. Only those who will look up to her.
I would not want a friend like Lisa, someone who wants my friendship only on her terms.
Her terms are to be honest, defend her character and don’t talk behind her back. That doesn’t seem too hard…
We would all be lucky to have friends like Lisa. Wanting to be supported when attacked. Your right, her terms are unreallistic. Team Lisa!!!!
I would love to have a friend like Lisa. Kyle, not so much…..
Lisa has been complaining and taking digs at Kyle in her blog and talking head interviews every season, which I just chalked up to Lisa always having a biting British remark about others and Kyle just letting it go. Lisa has criticized Taylor and Kyle getting close, her and Ken said some mean things on air in the Limo about Kyle and Maurico recently, and Lisa doesn’t like Kyle to be friends with Adrienne…how is that not talking behind Kyle’s back. How is it different- seriously I don’t get it. I don’t like the hypocrisy whether it is on RHNJ or RHBH.
I also wouldn’t want a friend like Lisa. Lisa seems a jealous type when it comes to friends. I remember once when she, Kyle and Taylor were at her restaurant, and Kyle and Taylor were being goofy, Lisa seemed so pissed off! The woman seems to be in love with Kyle!!
The thing is how many times does Kyle have to apologize for the same thing? BOTH Lisa and Kyle said that after the reunion Kyle wrote Lisa an email and apologized and they made up. So either Lisa needs to let go of the hurt, forgive Kyle and move on or she needs to tell Kyle that she doesn’t want a friendship with her anymore. Kyle is right Lisa is holding a grudge and Kyle is not obligated to kiss Lisa’s ass or accept being treated like crap for PETTY things. Because the whole thing is petty and what Lisa is doing is making Brandi’s issues her issues and it’s pushing away her friends. I think Kyle should be the one to let it go and Lisa and be with people like Brandi and Yolanda who kiss her ass until she gets tired of them or they stop brown-nosing her.
You do have a great point about being petty. Sounds just like RHONJ when Jax and Caro went after Tre about the magazine articles that quote from the show! And Caro getting mad about the Olive Garden comment!
I do agree to an extent. I just think Kyle keeps doing the same crap to Lisa over and over and that’s part of their issue. I’d be willing to bet they’re still friends off the show now though.
What same crap? Kyle hasn’t done anything to Lisa accept disagree with her and Lisa clearly doesn’t like to be challenged or disagreed with. She expects Kyle to fall in line behind and be her mouthpiece. Kyle is not that person, she has her own mind. Kyle doesn’t mind her friends disagreeing with her I don’t see her make people choose sides or put them in a position to make them defend her. Lisa never defended Kyle to Brandi who was really rude to Kyle at the reunion. I don’t know what Lisa feels Kyle needs to prove to her but friends don’t do that to each other.
okay clearly you do not pay attention while watching or you have not seen all the seasons. In season 1 and 2 lisa was kyle’s biggest supporter and closest friend. She disliked brandi and camille to support kyle. While she did that kyle went behind Lisa’s back and continued to say negative things about lisa, especially to taylor. If kyle was a true friend she would have told taylor straight that she misunderstands and needs to speak with lisa herself and not the negative things she did say. Also at the reunion for season 2 Kyle actually spoke out in defense of taylor, adrienne and her sister but not lisa when lisa was attacked by adrienne…
And finally if we are being truly honest:
Lisa just bought a house and wont be looking to buy or sell for quite sometime. While adrienne and paul are selling their home and both needing homes to buy… Kyle loves her some money.. enough said
Kyle disliked Brandi at first because of Lisa. Brandi first came on associated with Cedric and Kyle immediately took Lisa’s side thinking Brandi’s intentions were no good because of her connection with Cedric.
Kyle didn’t bad mouth Lisa to Taylor, all Kyle did was encourage Taylor to stand up for herself when it came to Lisa because Taylor kept crying about how intimidating and mean Lisa was to her.
And Mauricio sold both Lisa and Adrienne’s houses, so what. They wanted their houses sold and Mauricio sold their houses for them, they got more money out of the deal than Mauricio did.
Oh, please. Lisa didn’t like Brandi because of Cedric. It had nothing to do with Kyle. And Lisa didn’t dislike Camille either.
Not quite- Kyle was suspicious of Brandi off the bat because of her worry for Lisa because Brandi joined the show introducing herself as a friend of Cedric, who was Lisa’s #1 enemy at that moment. That was why all the ladies were initially wary of Brandi – to support Lisa. Lisa was at first freaking out when Brandi joined the show- yes they grew close later, but not at first and Kyle supported that.
I think that if Kyle keeps doing the SAMs crap (staying neutral when two friends are arguing?) then why not end the “friendship?” It’s obvious you’re not gonna get her to be your minion, I mean change. In this instance, I understand 100000% why Kyle would want to stay neutral in the arguments. If she didn’t cause the rift (and it’s apparent that she didn’t), then why should she sandwiched in between two adult women saying, “yeah that’s true, no that’s not true, blah blah blah.” No, I get Kyle’s point, i would definitely defend you if you’re not there to defend yourself, but why can’t Lisa just have a conversation with Camille or Adrienne and let it be between them. To me, it seems like Lisa has the mentality that there’s strength in numbers, and would rather anyone who dares argue with her gets a verbal beating by her “friends.” That sounds a bit like Caroline, she has the lines of friendship blurred.
JaiJai,
I have to agree. Lisa needs to STFU herself. She is petty and vindictive. Who in the world bullies a friend into crying by demandng her to say a word for word apology. I was disgusted by Lisa’s actions.
Please, everytime Kyle is forced to admit shes wrong or does something shitty to a “friend” She does that fake whine cry… I;m so sick of hearing her whine and cry like a pouting 10 year old. Grow up and act like an adult.
Say What???
That was the most disgusting display I have ever seen against a good friend what Lisa did. Anyone with half a heart would be emotional. Only a person of stone would not. Lisa was patently badgering for an on camera apology. I was disgusted.
Lisa is turning into Caroline
, which is so sad because I actually loved her in the first two seasons. Demanding things from a person is wrong, and the way that Lisa tried to manipulate Kyle was wrong too, Kyle’s apologized already but Lisa just wants to hold onto it. I think Brandi is rubbing off on Lisa in a bad way.
how was she manipulating Kyle? i don’t think it is possible for a person to be more straight forward then Lisa was with Kyle, she wanted her to recognize she once again didn’t have her back and it hurt her feelings and all Kyle wants to do is move forward and Lisa actually has to explain to Kyle like a child well tell me your sorry and yes we can move on. Kyle is the one being ridiculous and no one in the entire real housewives franchises holds a grudge like Caro so lets just leave her out of this, its like people over comparing terrible things to nazis or hitler, the comparison doesn’t need to be taken to that level to voice your disapproval.
Lisa and Brandi have overestimated the viewers acceptance and now are playing hard, you are either with me or against me, if you are against me then we will transform you into a villain in the viewers’ eyes.
Lisa and Brandi when they are not talking about other ladies but just being their silly selfs, they have potential, they can be funny and self deprecating which makes them relatable. It is when they want to force their views and perceptions on us when I found them insuferable.
There goes Lisa asking for public apologies about an issue she had with Adrienne, which hasn’t affected her at all, yet she can’t understand why Brandi crossed the line when she revealed Adrienne’s secret and keeps playing the poor single mother card?
Lisa needs to stop trying to find validation and undying loyalties, she needs to go back to being her and I do agree with you, somehow it seems that Brandi has brought up the worse in Lisa.
Ok, that’s just mean. She isn’t. She’s hurt. End of story. Just bc you or whomever says she should let it go and move on, doesnt mean it needs to be that way. For some, when you get hurt by someone you cared for, it’s hard to let it go…..Kyle hasn’t necessarily let go of bring hurt by Kim, now has she?? She continually brings up shit. Right?? Oh wait….justify that behavior.
Lisa’s pissed be EVERY TIME Kyle defends a friend, it just REMINDS her if not being defended. It’s a natural feeling.
I think Kyle needs to let go of her past experiences with Kim but comparing the two situations between a sister and a friend is downright laughable and I won’t even bother going any further with that.
Oh, ok. It’s downright laughable. it’s called a comparison, for christs sake. Grow up.
Aw how nice.
How is that laughable? I consider my close girlfriends sisters and we have a sister relationship. Its exactly like my blood sister. Maybe its laughable to you because you maybe dont have a sister or a close friend to compare the relationship.
I have a best friend but I wouldn’t compare that relationship with a sister I think it’s different. It’s my opinion, sorry that its not the same as yours.
Do you have a sister? Ever consider how you would feel if your close friend did this to you?
Umm, yeah I’m thinking you Mustt be quite young and immature to continue with your thought process.
I dont know about young. I think she maybe doesnt understand the close sisterly/friendship bond thats built between girls.
I don’t understand relationships in general really or the rules that go along with them.
Jelly, if that’s true then how is it you can be so stubborn and opinionated regarding other relationships?
Quite simply. I see things black and white in my eyes, and I’m okay with these things on television. However, in person is where I struggle.
In this instance,I don’t think you can compare these sisters issues where 15+ years of substance abuse are involved, multiple rehabs,, helping care for each other kids, other sibling dynamics-that can’t even compare to the petty issues Lisa is arguing with Kyle about.
Srt, let you tell it! You’re right! People seem to forget you cant just tell someone to get over it, and they will. It’s called feelings and you can’t just shut it off, especially when you actually care. I agree with everything you said. Lisa is correct and not bring unreasonable. She is not getting closure or feeling like her hurt is being acknowledged because Kyle IS giving her dismissive responses. I felt she wasn’t addressing Lisa’s point during their sit down. Funny, I saw it when watching but no one else did.
Thank you Chell!! It amazes me how some posters are completely blind to thus situation. Sure as shut if they were in that particular situation they would be singing a different tune.
You can’t negotiate feelings. No
Matter what others say. And to imply those upset are being petty is immature and obnoxious.
@Chellemybella, you and Srt are both right! Unfortunately, Kyle’s
body language spoke louder than any words that were spoken between she and Lisa. Kyle could care less about the friendship
anymore!!!! I am pretty sure Lisa got that as well.
Jelly,
You hit the nail on the head. She is a better version of Caroline Manzo. How in the world can she or anyone justify the repeat after me apology she wanted from Kyle while Kyle was crying? It was patently disgusting. Who in the world does that to a friend? Lisa doesn’t haven friends only pawns.
No, she has plenty of friends.
Who are they? I would like to know. They only seem to be on the show. All the people from O Bar in London. LOL! Lisa doesn’t have many friends. Not the way she treats them.
Yes, If Jennifer says Lisa has no friends and you disagree.. you need to bring a full list of all of Lisas friends so Jennifer can go down the list.. belittle and negate each and everyone until shes’s proven that you are wrong and she’s right.
Kyle can turn those tears on anytime she wants to. Lisa has never been deceitful or underhanded since BH has started.
Any one who would be friends with Faye Resnick, and what she stands for,has questionable values and morals.
That to me is heartlessly. Sorry but it is. It was so base how Lisa was pandering for an on camera apology.
Umm…I think you meant heartless.
If you retread your first sentence, that makes absolutely, unequivocally no sense.
Just trying to help out….
Lisa totally holds grudges. She can’t seem to let anything go when it’s about her but she tells everyone else to let things go. Lisa got an apology from Adrienne, yet she acts like she never did. She said she its in the past, but she brings up Adrienne’s accusations of her whenever she gets the chance to play the victim. She said after the reunion, Kyle and her talked and Kyle apologized for hurting her feelings and explained why she felt the ways she felt, but Lisa can’t move on because Kyle isn’t going to fall in line behind her and act like her puppet.
I think it’s silly that the reason why Kyle and Lisa’s friendship is falling apart is over the fact that Kyle didn’t defend Lisa and doesn’t speak up for her. Lisa is very capable of speaking up for herself and defending herself. The only reason Kyle defends Adrienne is because Adrienne has never been present at any of their events when Brandi, Faye, or someone else kept bringing up Adrienne and Brandi would continue to make unnecessary comments. Lisa wants everyone to defend her, but I honestly don’t remember her defending any of her friends when they’re being attacked. Did Lisa defend Kyle when she was being attacked by Camille? I rememeber all lisa saying was that Kyle isnt a bully at the reunion. Did she defend Taylor when she was being attacked by Brandi at the reunion? Did she defend Brandi when Adrienne was going at her at her tea party?
Van,
Yes, yes, yes!!! Lisa exposed herself to be a fake. Lisa holds grudges or she wouldn’t ask someone to repeat an apology again to have greedy satisfaction.
Oh and Lisa in her blog saying that calling it a grudge is passive-aggressive is idiotic. Lisa is minimizing Kyle’s feelings. Kyle has apologized. She even apologied at her house. The only one who is passive-aggressive is Lisa. She needs to seek medical help with that. I am sure Lisa is gooding to a shrink only Ken doesn’t know it. LOL!
People keep saying that Kyle has apologized and Lisa needs to move on. Wait a minute? First of all, she apologizes but then continues the same behavior. So stab, stab “Oh sorry” stab, stab “oops, I already apologized before” and here’s another stab, stab. “I already apologized, Lisa needs to stop holding a grudge.” Nah, doesn’t fly in my world. Kyle defends the sh#t out of Adrienne to anyone who brings the topic up (usually Kyle), she’s a slimeball.
Agree!!!!
Completely….
Agree!! Just feel like i need to agree on all posts that are of the smae opinion as mine since it appears anyone with a different opinion is overwhelmed with long crazy posts nit picking each point.
Soo. I AGREE
I AGREE TOO….
Again….
What’s behavior does Kyle continue to do? Not defend Lisa when Lisa is present and can very well defend herself?
^
Along with her booo hooo hooo, but Lisa, snivel , snivel booo, hooo, hooo,” I have
apologized, I don’t know what else you want from me”, snivel , snivel, booo hooo hooo!!!!! She has after all played this record ,before!!! Kyle keeps giving Lisa lip service, but her actions, or body language are full of lies!!!!!
Lisa is just sad to find out that someone she trusted as her friend who had a history together, is basically full of it; what Lisa trusted to be a true friendship, is not, and it is hard to get over a betrayal.
I agree!
Society gal AGREED #Truth!!!
Hallelujah deni common sense at last!
She blames her for shyte that has not happened yet. Aint that something.
This gotten old. ZZzzzZZZZZZz
There are so many examples of Kyle going along with someone who is bad-mouthing Lisa without even a single contradictory word that Lisa learned about while watching last season. So, yes, Kyle apologized.
But now, Lisa has a heightened awareness that Kyle does not have her back in a pinch so when Kyle does not defend her, as in Vegas, it is not a one-off, but a repeat of the same pattern. What Lisa is saying is that she can forgive Kyle for failing as a friend, but that she cannot restore the same implicit trust that Kyle will have her back, because she knows empirically that Kyle does not.
It’s true that Lisa does not need to be defended and is capable of defending herself. However, friendship is not about need, but about being there whether you are needed or not. When someone maligns a friend of mine, I don’t weigh the relative speaking skills of my friend against the person saying something negative about her, I say that’s not true. I don’t nod my head and go along to get along. I defend my friend, whether she needs it or not, because that is what friends do.
What example would that be? I don’t recall seeing Kyle agreeing with anyone that bad-mouthed Lisa. And the only people that bad-mouthed Lisa was Russell, who Kyle defended Lisa to and Adrienne who confronted Lisa to her face at the reunion. Kyle chose to allow Lisa to defend herself. Even when Taylor was saying Lisa was mean Kyle said I don’t think Lisa is intimidating or mean. So I don’t know what example that would be.
I don’t see Lisa defending Kyle against Brandi who has said some mean things about Kyle. Lisa didn’t defend Kyle against Camille when Camille was going after Kyle in New York. Lisa doesn’t even do what she’s demanding of Kyle so why should she expect Kyle to defend her?
Examples, or which episode?
By the way, once again we have an example of Kyle defending someone over Lisa this week with Kyle tweeting that Faye was invited and Lisa is lying. It’s the same pattern again and again with Kyle.
Faye was invited by Producers, lol I don’t see how Kyle was saying that Lisa was lying she was just saying I did not invite Faye, there was a place for her and if she did invite Faye she would have asked Lisa. Lisa is saying I never invited Faye which is truthful too. I don’t recall Kyle calling Lisa a liar
On Twitter, Kyle’s accusing Lisa of lying.
You don’t have what Kyle actually said on twitter. Kyle never said Faye was invited. She said that she asked.
Lisa countered by saying she did not invite Faye. Lisa is using a play on words.
Just as Adriene is using a play of words. Funny how that works!
No it it is not a play on words. It is either a lawsuit or not. It is in the dictionary. Black’s law legal dictionary because you need a filing.
Jennifer, have you been diagnosed with Aspergers?
Not to interject here but Say What, what does having Asperger’s have to do with anything? lol
Jelly, a month of watching her posts she never ever takes into account emotion or feeling. She also takes everything literally. I’ve suspected it for a while and decided to just outright ask.
In B where she means invited she means invited through asking of A they are all dependent upon each other.
She did not say she was invited. She wrote the follows:
A) I would never bring a guest w/out asking B) Faye wouldn’t go to an event unless invited C) There was a place setting for her. Do the math
And all are true. Kyle asked to bring a guest. The guest was not personally invited by Lisa. There was an extra place just look at the table.
Lisa knew. Kyle never said Faye was personally invited. Nice lie by Lisa. Lisa wants to play on semantics and not the truth.
And B follows A. They are not interdependent.
WE GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank god for you and your numerous explanations on EVERYTHING. Even with my bachelors degree, 2 masters degrees, and classes towards a 3rd masters degree your word seems like gospel.
You know everything!!
It’s a fact bc JENNIFER said it.
Remember everyone….it’s Jennifer’s world and we are all just passing acquaintances.
Gmafb….that’s GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK for all us dimwits…
I have more than a JD and a BSE, so please prattle on. I have a few others. And one of them makes me a doctor of philosophy not just a doctor of juris prudence.
You need to stop being so concerned with my posts.
OF COURSE you do…..
You know what you are?? A one upper.
I know a one upper in my life…..and you know how she is?? She’s pathetic, bored, obnoxious, and tried to be better than anyone and everyone around her…..
Hmm….ring true??
As for fact, I just cut and pasted Kyle’s response from twitter. That is a fact.
As for the place settings there is one besides Kim’s. there was an empty chair.
@JENNIFER,
IT MUST BE EXHAUSTING BEING YOU!!!!!
It was Lisa’s tea party , the place setting was for KIM…….NOT Faye!!!!!
HOW in anyone’s world does that make someone a liar, regardless??!
I get you do not like Lisa …at all …..but PUT IT AWAY!!!!!!
FYI, Faye has NO CLASS, LOL!!!!!! I would not put this past her in the least, she is too arrogant!! hmmmmmm.
No actually there was another. It was on the other side. Watch it again. Count the chairs. Then the place settings.
@society gal, you should know Jennifer is all knowing. She stays on this gossip blog all friggin day responding to every single post. What a sad life that must be, no??
Any sane person agrees with you….
Count the chairs and place settings, are you for real? No one has as much time are their hands as Jennifer. She says she has two kids and one on the way; I don’t believe that for one minute.
This use to be the best blog. So much fun seeing the differet opinions and debating with no moderation! Even the small arguments were fun.
Now its turned into Jennifers legal corner.. Every single blog is exhausting to read and you have to wade through so many ridiculous posts and arguments to get to the real comments that its no longer fun or worth the time.
Kyle was defending herself because Lisa made it look like Kyle just brought Faye to her house without her permission. Lisa may not have invited Faye willingly, but she shouldn’t throw Kyle under the bus and just make it look like she brought Faye uninvited.
IMO
Lisa & Kyle’s friendship seemed like a genuine friendship in the beginning. We even see glimpes of that friendship still. I think that’s why Lisa has a hard time completely letting go but I also think in a way Lisa is getting even with Kyle. Lisa knows exactly what she is doing on & off the show.
Lisa doesn’t really seem like she has real friendships & maybe that’s why she wants Kyle back. Lisa was always with Cedric in the beginning & now Brandi. Yes they are friends but she was also taking care of them & being a motherly figure. That is a different dynamic.
True!!!
Lisa had a real friendship with Kyle. I don’t believe she has one with Brandi. I don’t see how one could with that feckless individual. However, I think what Lisa has said and done is too much for right now. They need time apart.
Lisa was also quite motherly to Kyle season one, but then made it clear she did not like it when Taylor got too close with Kyle too.
Constantly bringing up the issues that you’ve said you’ve moved on from, makes you look like you hold a grudge, whether you do or not…
Yes, yes, yes!!! Lisa holds grudges!!!
Lisa has already lied by ommision she needs to sop.seems like she is comfy with her second face. Every episode she has brought up the same issues twice…boring and again that is a non truth, when a human states each episode they have moved on and then brings it up within the hour again…Lisa this is not moving on…stabbing at Adrienne is not moving on..demanding from kyle …is ugly.
I truly want to support Lisa…but will she stop lying? will she move on? will she stop being a petulant child?
If she decides to present herself as someone who is not delusional…perhaps she has the right to address her long time friend and discuss her disappointment.
Lisa…really what is up with you.
Be classy – be the Lisa you used to be.
Lisa holds a grudge, plain and simple. She claims she’s moved on but she still clings to the reunion to make everyone else look bad. Further proofs that Lisa hasn’t let anything go of moved forward with Kyle are in her tweets and interviews. She said her relationship with Kyle was difficult or whatever because they don’t agree on certain things, she retweets things that people say that’s not favorable to Kyle. She’s demanding Kyle to defend her when Lisa has never really defended Kyle except saying she’s not a bully.
Kyle can’t be a real friend to anyone, even her own sister.
Truth! She is all about being better then her friends including her sister.
Did you notice that Marissa sid she didnt know Kim because Kim always lived down at that house Kim says Kyle stole from her? I found that interesting. Seems like that was Kims main home and somehow its now Kyles while Kim is left renting house after house..
You may have hit the source of her flaws.
Look at the relationship she has with her own sister. This comes from their homebase and I want to say this has to do more with their childhood and their parents. These were “hollywood” kids, yet we expect them to be ordinary people. For the most part, they grow up screwed up (kim) with all the glitz and glam but rotten. How many times haven’t we seen this?
We now get to see them (in general) in their every day lives, before we only saw them as actors in fictional characters.
At the end of the day all these ladies are human like you and I. Some are holier than others but human. Why do we expect them to be perfect, flawless and 100% truthful. Such doesn’t exist in reality. We have girlfriends that we are closer to than others because of numerous traits. If Lisa doesn’t like the way Kyle suits her, then keep it moving. I think Kyle gets it since she said in her TH- “she will be cordial and polite but keep it moving”.
I’m off this…
The insulting people do here just because someone has a different opinion is pathetic. Be well all.
Peace!
Well stated Klown Kardashian…and totally agree. Neither women are shy about standing up for themselves and neither women will accept bully like behavior.
Human is human.
Totally agree with everything you said Klown K.
The insults on this board have gotten out of control.
Agreed- I don’t know why commenters can’t just give their opinions about the housewives, give examples from episodes…but the name calling and personal digs when someone doesn’t support the housewife you side with is silly. We all have our favorites on each franchise or see hypocrisy in friendships in different ways and we should be able to say that on here without being called names or personally attacked.
I’m not on either of their sides. Lisa and Kyle are both awful but for different reasons.
I don’t think many people are seeing the whole picture here.
I don’t think Lisa is turning into Caro – please, Caro is way crazier and has nothing going on like Lisa does except her 3 babies that are oversized by now.
Lisa has been a good friend to Kyle since episode 1. In the New York incident, though she didn’t stand up for Kyle at the table, she was observing, being very smart and figuring out what was going on. It was her who pointed out that between being upstairs and having dinner, Taylor was the only one who communicated with Camille. Lisa is smart, she can see things clearly sometimes and she can read between the lines. You can tell she had Kyle’s back too in season 2 regarding Games night, which might I add, was so hard to watch. Lisa doesn’t really talk behind Kyle’s back but we know Kyle does all the time.
When Kyle was talking to Taylor about standing up against Lisa, or just being a stronger person, she actually said ‘Lisa preys on the weak’. WHO SAYS THAT about a friend? Also, if you rewatch season 2 episodes, namely the tea party and the reunion, you can tell Kyle DOES in fact talk behind Lisa’s back and KNOWS there were attacks planned for Lisa. The tea party, Taylor said EVERYONE there had talked behind Lisa’s back and asked Kyle to speak up and Kyle just pretended like she didn’t know what was going on and tried to turn the situation around by saying ‘Taylor, don’t fuck with me like that’ with her annoying finger pointing thing. At the reunion, and as revealed on this season, Kyle KNOWS there was something that was gonna go down against Lisa. What did she do at the reunion? Say nothing. Oh actually, she said to Lisa, being friends with you is like playing chess with Bobby Fischer. WHO DOES THAT? You can tell Lisa was caught off guard, and all she needed was just SOMEONE, most understandably Kyle to stand up for her but she didn’t, she merely added fuel to the fire.
Lisa has made her point OVER AND OVER AGAIN, she just wants Kyle to be a good friend and have her back sometimes. Lisa jumped to Kyle’s back with regards to games night without questioning much. However, what does Lisa get at the reunion?
At the reunion, Brandi also said that she was bashing Taylor over dinner and Lisa had her back 100%. And I really do believe that’s who Lisa is. You can tell Brandi isn’t really someone who would say something for someone just because someone wants her to. Look at her relationship with Maloof now. Lisa will be a good friend to you until you do something to break her trust and Kyle has done that over and over and over and over again.
Lisa also said in her talking head, sometimes the most hurtful thing isn’t the words of your enemy, but the silence of your friends. WHY DOES KYLE NOT GET THAT?
Especially with this Maloof crap, how can Kyle not see how hurtful and insulting it was for Adrienne to sit there and yell at Lisa ‘You sell stories. I”m sorry I don’t believe that for a minute.’ and still be all friendly with Adrienne. A lot of people have commented here saying, and I”m beginning to think it’s true, but I think it must be the $$$ that the Maloofs has. Thinking about this makes me disgusted. Kyle and her $ hungry husband.
Kyle doesn’t know how to be a good friend to someone. Like Yolanda said, she claims she wants to be neutral, but she inserts herself RIGHT in the drama. Then she plays the victim by saying ‘oh I don’t want you guys to fight -tears-’
Also, Kyle’s retaliation to Lisa during that talk was just so dumb. It’s as dumb as Adrienne going off on Brandi saying ‘oh didn’t you attack Bernie on Twitter?’ like wtf, we’re talking about apples and you’re talking about oranges.
Lisa didn’t defend Kyle when it came to Camille, plain and simple. While Camille was attacking her and Kyle was in tears, Lisa sat idly by not saying anything. She doesn’t always practice what she preaches. Also, Lisa’s observation also stirred the pot between Taylor, Kim and Kyle. It was Lisa who brought up New York again after Camille and Kyle had out it behind them and after Kyle told her she didn’t want to discuss New York anymore.
Not that it matters but Kyle never flat out said Lisa preys on the weak. She said “maybe” she does but it doesn’t happene to her because she’s a strong woman.
Kyle has forgiven Lisa many times and has accepted the fact that the Lisa she has known as a closer than close bff..is non-existant…and Kyle has reached out numerous times only to have Lisa…bla blah..I’ve moved on routine..Kyle has accepted the fact that they will remain friends….just not like before…I don’t hear Kyle complaining about it..Lisa seems to believe that her friends are to “stand at attention and do only what lisa stipulates”…then you are allowed to be my friend. Again, Kyle is not complaining about not being friends…she is just noting that it is a different friendship.
One comment about the picture of the table and place settings at Lisa’s tea party – while there were enough chairs and maybe a place setting to accommodate Faye. I noticed that one of the chairs is without a gift. I don’t think Lisa was expecting Faye and therefore didn’t have a gift for her. Faye only got a gift because Kim didn’t show.
Kyle is in the wrong, she should have supported and defended Lisa; Lisa has blindly supported and defended Kyle because she was her friend. Lisa clearly is a more loyal person than Kyle is and look how vigorously Kyle has defended Adrienne, even bringing Adrienne’s name up when no one was speaking of her. I would be questioning if I wanted to continue a friendship with Kyle if I was in Lisa’s position. When Adrienne attacked Lisa at the last reunion about selling stories, that was a horrible accusation and Kyle should have absolutely defended Lisa, but didn’t. It isn’t about holding a grudge; it is about being terribly hurt by someone you considered a very close friend. Lisa has not gotten over the hurt because Kyle repeatedly does not speak up on Lisa’s behalf. When Brandi said Adrienne only owns 2% of the Palms, Kyle immediately said that was mean and not cool to say. However, when Camille said Lisa does not own SUR, Kyle said nothing. Why didn’t Kyle say how mean that was of Camille to make such a comment? Kyle has no loyalty to Lisa or at least not the same regard for Lisa’s feelings that she has for someone else’s. I would therefore, question how much she valued our friendship. Kyle brings up someone’s name and stirs the pot, then she doesn’t speak up when she should. Not my opinion of a good and true friend. I completely understand and agree with Lisa’s feelings.
On the internet, a person can claim to be anything. However, would a practicing anything have time to post 30 responses on this post and 46 on another and a dozen or more on nearly every post?
People have jobs, children, activities. Some, though, have obsessions.