Let’s Discuss: RHOBH Lost Footage
Yesterday Bravo aired the ‘lost footage’ from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. Thought I’d do an open discussion so we can all discuss our thoughts on the episode! Remember this is my opinion and I hope you can respect it like I will always respect yours!
Kim Richards: Andy asks Kim how her relationship is with her brother in law Mauricio is. Kim tells Andy that she was fed up with everything that happened in Hawaii. She doesn’t really take responsibility for the fact that she was 36 hours late to his birthday. She does though tell Andy how shes really close with her other brother in law. She says so many things have been built up regarding Mauricio through the years and the last straw was Hawaii. She was especially upset when he said, “the truth will set you free.” I don’t understand why she got upset about that? It was clear she has been lying and has been acting shady all season. Kim adds that it was his birthday and he needs to “get over it/get a life” instead of worrying about where his sister-in-law is. I’m proud Kim went to rehab but it still seems like something is a bit off with her. I do think she owes Mauricio an apology. I only ever see her bad mouthing Mauricio for no reason.
Kyle Richards: How adorable is Kyle’s little daughter Portia? Kids really do say the darnest things!
Lisa Vanderpump: Can’t believe we didn’t know Lisa Vanderpump had skin cancer until this episode! Luckily, the doctor was able to remove all of her skin cancer! Still, that must have been very scary.
Adrienne Maloof: I love how patient Adrienne has always been with Kim. Most people would get annoyed and with Adrienne she really doesn’t judge Kim and brings out a brighter side of her.
Okat, lets talk the awkward Godmother situation! Last season Taylor said Adrienne was the God mother of Kennedy while Adrienne said she wasn’t and didn’t feel comfortable being her Godmother. Taylor still pushed the subject and brought it up when the two went out for some lunch. Adrienne explains the reason she isn’t comfortable being Kennedy’s Godmother is because she thinks it should be someone who is closer with both Taylor and Kennedy. Taylor thinks because Adrienne previously said she ‘was flattered’ about being asked that she meant yes she would. Let’s be serious. The only reason Taylor wants Adrienne to be Kennedy’s Godmother is for one reason and one reason only. Adrienne has big money and would give Kennedy the life Taylor wished she had. It was embarrassing and I felt extremely uncomfortable after watching this. Taylor obviously has no shame since she’s dragged this whole Godmother thing for two seasons now.
Also check out this lost footage from the infamous fight at Brandi Glanville’s beach house party
Let’s Discuss
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Unfortunately for me, the lost footage finalized my negative feelings I had for several of these women. I believe that Kim and Taylor are just trash. Kyle is just an arrogant and mean person unless you are kissing her ass. It is official, I do not like Adrienne any more. She is the one that stirs the pot and constantly takes unnecessary jabs at Lisa. I am so over the way she treats Paul. She is so rude and disrespectful. Honestly, I would only like to see Brandi, Lisa and Adrienne return next year. The rest are way too dark, mean and ugly.
Adrienne was right that Lisa stirred the pot. It was Lisa who told both women what was being said. She did stir the pot. In the end however, all responsibility lay on Taylor. Taylor accused Camille of outting her thus, putting Taylor and her daughter, Kennedy in danger. Fact is, if Russell was really as violent as Taylor claims and Russell beat up her friends and threw them into a pool along with the family dog and attempting to drown Taylor, than truth be told, It Was Taylor Who Put Camille’s Life In Danger as well as the rest of the women. Camille was in danger.
Brandi licked Joe Gorgas face, throws around words like c*ck and c u next tuesday and on her WWHL date asked her date if he wants to put his meat in her mouth (he was serving her a taste of his dinner on a fork at the time). Now that’s trashy…
Lost Footage scenes of Brandi’s Malibu party at a “friend’s” house were classic! I had no idea how wasted Brandi was until I saw this. Not only did she say while next to her sober living friend/roommate Jennifer that she was already drunk (as the second guest arrived), her facial expressions later on were priceless. 2 people would be talking and Brandi would be off center or in the background just blankly staring with glassy eyes and weaving a bit as if she were about to hurl. Forgot how she yelled for Taylor to leave “her” house (Yeah, whenever I’m at a “friend’s” house I slip up and called it “my” house too!)
A shame, the woman gets 36 months probation for a DUI in April and she immediately begins filming a reality TV show which is “fueled by alcohol” (Brandi’s own words). Not to mention the alcohol consumed during her other appearances and the Xanax. Brandi’s enablers say it’s OK because it was only ONE DUI, and she only drank A LITTLE after she took the Xanax, and she lives with Jennifer who would never let her consume too much. Yikes.
MM, you are right. I really hate that C word. As a matter of fact, I hate both the C words. It’s bad enough hearing a man use the C U word, but it’s a shocker to hear a woman use it. It’s just disgusting and it does say a lot about a woman and a man who use it. My husband …Hates Housewives and is forced to watch them lol… but he watched Brandi use both C words and he just looked at me and said, “Only a real W would use those words.”
Along with the CUNext word Brandi uses for other woman, I also didn’t like and thought it strange that during a part of the reunion she said that they were lucky she wore a top at all on vacation, what’s that? I guess good thing the camera’s were there? I get Brandi wears what she wants, that’s cool. But there’s something to be said for having respect for the ppl you’re with and situations you’re in.
Opps, I would only like to see Camille, Brandi and Lisa return next season.
Me too! But I still like adrienne
I’m with on everything except Adrienne… she’s bothered me a little this season.. but, for the most part I like her.. Love Camile too! Kim and Taylor HAVE to go! Oh and Pam too! BUH-BYE Please Bravo!
I also still like Adrienne (and Paul too!) and want to see them return.
IA also with liking how Adrienne handles Kim. She is patient with her. She’s a good friend to her and does bring out a brighter, almost more comfortable Kim.
me too you said exactly how I feel
Exactly how I feel too! Can’t stand to watch Taylor or Kyle!
They both have such huge mouths!
well said! That Taylor and Adrienne thing was way too awkward. Taylor needs to get over it and stop pushing Adrienne to be the Godmother when its clear Adrienne doesn’t want to be it!
Exposed! Another lie from Taylor.
Okay Kyle was being crazy at Brandi’s party. This season can’t get any worse for her
Overall, this episode was a huge was of time. But one could say that about the entire season, couldn’t they? Oh wells. I agree with your assessment. I do think it is weird how Maurice-eo said “formal” apology. What is she supposed to do? Write it on parchment, fold it into a paper airplane, climb to the top of Mt Everest and fly it to him? And keep doing that until it makes it there? Cuz it strikes me that is how long it is gonna take for him to let it go.
Ditto on the Lisa news. Tells me something about her character. She confronted it head on, privately, without a lot of drama. Really impressed with her. On the down side, any day now, Taylor is gonna report that she too had skin cancer from the time she was eating at a sidewalk cafe and Russell jumped out of the bushes and burned her with a cigarette over 90% of her body as a punishment for lighting the wrong end of her cigarette in the limo the night after they left Brandi’s party. The other people at the cafe all picked up their phones to call 911 but Taylor screamed “no, don’t report it to the authoritieeeeeeesssss!!!” And they all collectively said “ok.”
PLEASE DON’T GIVE HER ANYMORE IDEAS!!!!!AAAAHHH!
LOL
Ditto. lol
LMAO
LMAO!!
BLAHAHAHHAHAHAH! AWESOME!!!
If Bravo claims they were so interested in doing this season as a public-awareness type thing, they should have covered Lisa’s skin cancer more!! It’s prevalant in CA, and it probably would have helped many more people than this fake DV storyline!!!!!
Dittto!
I am still appalled at the conduct and behavior of most of the women, and I share poster Stacey’s opinion too. Adrienne looked like a moron in all three reunion shows. Kyle, who cares about her anymore, last season I was her cheerleader. Camille was refreshing this time. I got tired of Brandi’s gutter mouth. I think there were some other characters but they’re not name worthy.
I was shocked that Lisa had skin cancer and that it wasn’t covered on camera, nor did we hear a peep about it until now. I’m glad Lisa is healthy and I admire the way she dealt with it, she’s a very strong woman.
The Malibu party was crazy CLEARLY everyone had way too much to drink, DeeDee was out of control and Kyle was about to get ‘BOUT IT with Brandi. Well Kyle was a good friend to Taylor trying to take care of her, but it was taking them forever to leave. I also couldn’t believe Adrienne blaming Lisa for stirring up trouble when Lisa had absolutely nothing to do with the Malibu party or the issues with Taylor and Camille. Adrienne has deep-seated issues with Lisa and they’ve been around LONG before this season. Taylor was just completely wasted and irrational, they should’ve gotten her out of their sooner.
I’m still TEAM KYLE, she keeps it real.
Love Team Kyle….(She sometimes puts her foot in her mouth but who doesn’t) Brandi should half the time she talks and Lisa just says it the a smile so that is okay.
Me too! Glad I am not the only one
I think that stuff that Lisa have said about Adrienne has gotten back to her over the years and vice versa with Lisa. Also Adrienne can’t stand Lisa because Adrienne and her families wealth is going down the drain rather quickly and soon she may be even in a smaller house than Kyle.
If Kyle were a true friend she would have seen that Taylor was in no condition to go to that Malibu party to begin with. Kyle loves the drama and if it’s not there she invents it. Brandi rightfully asked that Taylor leave the party and Taylor classy as ever gave the response we’ve all come to expect from trash. Kyle put her hands on Brandi first yet turned it around and told Brandi to never touch her like that again, really Kyle?
I like Kyle last year with some exceptions but this year…. WOW! She thought she was the belle of the ball and turned into a mean girl.
call me when kyle removes her head from traylor’s ass
it should be “BREAKING NEWS” haha
Portia is super adorable!
Rox,
Very interesting you made no mention of Lisa’s comment “lisa stirs the pot”. Lisa wasn’t even at Brandi’s party…..interesting comment….yet no mention on your recap. It seems to me that you have been really light on Adrienne all season. The whole Bernie thing is disgusting and I really lost alot of respect for ADrienne…hope she reflects and realized how much of an azz she made of herself….especially at the reunion.
I do agree ADrienne did a great job of handling Kim. She seemed pretty sincere and I could tell even before the lost footage episdoe that Kim feels really comfortable with Adrienne. I think Adrienne treated Kim WAY better then Kyle and i hope that relationship continues beyond the show. Kim needs all the support she can get.
Apologies! I didn’t catch that. I probably wasn’t paying attention
I must have been living under a rock this was the first I had heard of Adrienne being Kennedy’s godmother… I thought I had heard it all from Taylor… Is she even Catholic?? Oh well, at least Adrienne had enough sense to say no… Taylor is going to have to find someone else to con, I just can’t believe it… Most people take choosing godparents very seriously, leave it to Taylor to make it all about her…
The lost footage sucked, to be honest. Nothing new except for Lisa having skin cancer. Thankfully they had that all removed.
The Malibu party was out of control. You would think that these adult women would stop serving alcohol at parties and stop getting drunk when they’re all together seeing as how they can never have a fun, drama-free night when alcohol is involved. They never learn apparently. LOL.
I don’t think wine and women mix well. I have noticed other women drink wine and they get awful and ridiculous. Sometime just looking at some of the people I know when they drink wine makes me feel sick. They turn into monsters. And that taylor person has monster down pat.
I guess we will never know the history between the sisters, I definitely believe Kyle and her husband swindled that house from Kim! Kim did apologize, I don’t know what else he wants from her.
He wants an apology from Kim for saying he stole her house. Kyle explained about the house in her blog. Kim has never apologized for what she said in the limo.
Yes Brandi has a potty mouth but she said that in the very beginning I like her bc shes real shes not perfect either are we (if I offended someone w/that statement sorry) I like Lisa for the same reason she says what she says & owns it Id rather watch these two ladies then watch the other bunch of phony Beotches kissing each others butts!
Taylor needs to watch “Downton Abbey” on PBS! She would know when Adrienne used the word ‘flattered’ what it really meant!
:
http://downtonabbey.wikia.com/wiki/Sybil
(Season 2. Backstory, Branson, the chaffeur, has falled for Sybil, the 3rd daughter of the wealthy family he works for. He finally tells her he wants to marry her.)
“Sybil hesitates and replies that she is flattered, knowing that this is not the answer he was hoping for, Branson tells her that ‘flattered’ is a word posh people use when they are about to say ‘no’. “
I freakin heart this comment.
Why didn’t Ken show more concern about Lisa ‘s skin cancer revelation. He just seemed so aloof to the situation. He cares more about Giggy’s alopecia than his wife ‘s cancer. As far as Kim and Kyle’s relationship is concerned, I feel like Kim touched on something during the limo fight. She feels like Kyle took the house from her and maybe she harbors this resentment against Kyle & Mauricio.
I think his face is pulled too tight to show emotion.
ahahaha..
I thought he looked flustered and lost – not aloof, but frightened. In fact, more frightened than Lisa. When he walked, he had that old man aimless walk. You could see how upset they were, leaving Giggy and Lisa leaving her notes.
Agree
That scene was the most real scene we saw ever on the HW franchise. I truly think it caught both Lisa & Ken off guard. I do not believe for a minute when they were filming that shopping scene that they had any idea she was going to be getting that call. As for Ken’s face, well the English are stoic…but I also think they may have edited out a lot…no not Bravo!
I don’t understand how everyone sees Taylor wanting adrienne to be the god mother as some sort of cash in? Adrienne and I are both Catholics and she is so right on this one. It’s a big spiritual responsibility, but absolutely no monetary responsibility other than perhaps an especially nice first communion gift, but taylors not catholic so I guess there wouldn’t even be that? Tbh I don’t know why other religions have his mothers tho.
Yes, but I think what Adriennes point is is she would have to RAISE Kennedy (especiially now since she only has one parent) if Taylor died. Adriennes point was merely to say that is a huge responsibility to raise another person’s child and she doesn’t want that responsibility. Becuase that is the true role of a godparent. they are the ones that will care for a child in the event of death.
About the house, I think that Kim misunderstood the whole thing and thought that if she gave Mauricio and Kyle back the 25,000 that she took out of the house before they bought her share out, that it’ll buy her share back. Kyle has already explained it in her blog. I also think Kim realized that she was wrong in saying that they stole her house because at the reunion season 1, Kyle was willing to discuss the house but Kim didn’t want to and basically refused to talk about the house situation.
Kim obviously has not recovered if she keeps on insisting that she is better than everyone like Mauricio and Brandi. She needs to admit her mistakes and only then will she be headed in the right direction toward recovery.
Kim never said she recovered! Just because she got sober in rehab does not mean she is fully recovered and dealt with her other issues. It does not happen in 30 days you know…
Very good point!!!
She hasn’t done any of the work on herself that is necessary to obtain sobriety. Holding grudges and being unable to forgive will lead her right back to the bottleand the drugs.
Not everyone believes in the 12-step program. Frankly I think there’s a lot of fluff in it to keep addicts busy.
It’s perfectly logical to not forgive someone that you think would still behave in a negative way toward you. The unhealthy thing is to spend any time dwelling on that negative person. Just go about your life with your focus on positive things.
Exactly! I love how everyone talks about “forgiveness and holding grudges, purify your soul Kim, only then you can be clean”… and I wonder how many here actually go by this same philosophy. Is everyone really that forgiving and truthful? Does everyone accept their faults that easily as they expect Kim to? lol oh this world would be so perfect then…PUHHH-LEEZE!!!!
I still think Kim was a bit off during her interview with Andy. Is it just me or did anybody else notice it too. Hmmm. #justsaying
Agreed. I think she is a pill popper and she actually is affected by the “allowed” pills she is taking.
Yes, I agree. She sounded very slurry when she spoke
The only thing that Kim has been real about is her alcoholism. And she really had no choice after the spectacle she made of self. I hope she continues this journey though. I think she has been living in denial along time – she still takes zero responsibility when it comes to Mauricio and Brandi. Also, Brandi’s one bad comment was not far off track; Kim’s far out behavior was exhibited repeatedly. You also need to get off your high horse. B’s letting some F bombs drop is really no big deal next to your “classy” drunken behavior. You still seem a little loopy, too.
Adrienne treats Paul like he is inferior. A lot of women would love to have him.
She also was petty and presumptuous with Lisa. She needs to offer an unqualified apology.
Taylor asking Adrienne to be the godmother shows how totally out of touch with reality she is. Also, who is she trying to fool? It’s a $$ issue. Whatever DV she experienced, she is still an instigator, manipulator, a con artist, and OBVIOUS. I also think by her behavior she herself was highly volatile.
Camille – I really disliked you Season1. I love how you conducted self Season 2. Keep rocking. I hope your dumb arse ex stops trying to take the kids and disrupt lives after his choices.They need stability. May he come to his senses and learn to co-parent.
Brandi – love the lack of pretension, the ownership, and fun spirit, truck driving mouth and all. I’d rather hear a few “F” you’s than see people treated like “ISH!”
Kyle: You have a lot to offer; dump the mean girl persona. It’s unattractive. I don’t buy the this isn’t me act anymore. You were a cr*p friend to Lisa. And you seem to like weak people to make you feel better.
Oh, my, my, my, this Lost Footage episode certainly did not go well and end well for Taylor Armstrong. I think Bravo wants to appear to look like they support Taylor’s accusations against Russell using Andy Cohen to do it but there is no doubt in my mind now that Bravo and Andy Cohen are simply doing so to avoid future problems with the living spouse, Taylor. Bravo exposed Taylor, not Russell. Bravo put together Taylor’s lies and exposed them. Finaly, in the grand finale, The Lost Footage, Bravo did not go easily on Taylor yet again, exposing another lie from Taylor. They exposed a conversation between Taylor and Adrienne about the Godmother issue and we did see that Taylor was lying about Adrienne being Kennedy’s Godmother. Then once again, we go back to Brandi’s party and once again get a last glimpse of Taylor’s outrageous behaviour. Nothing in this season of RHOBH faired well for Taylor. We saw what Bravo showed us. Think about it, In the end, it’s not Russell viewers are against. It’s Taylor.
Don’t Expect Taylor To Return Next Season. No doubt that Bravo is done with this sh*t.
I will bet you a hundred dollars she will back. If not full time, at least part time. Mark my words!
You make a great point here!
JMO……
Kyle…… I think she’s an arrogant, self centered, controlling, envious & the list goes on… Unless your kissing her ass she’s all of the above & more… It was interesting to hear Kyle admit that her husband works at Kathy’s husband’s (Rick) business …. I don’t believe for one minute that she cares that much about her sisters issues as she claims but perhaps gains her some sympathy with the extra camera time she gets.. Also believe there’s envy issues in that relationship on Kyle’s behalf & has been long before this show…..
Taylor……. What’s left to say that hasn’t been said….. One hot mess….
Adrianne….. I think there’s more to her marriage than is on camera …
Kim……. Hopefully she’s on the road to recovery & I wish her well…. I can definately see her point on many things…. She’s always got sis’ Kyle criticizing her about something & who knows how long that’s been going on…She states her opinions about Kim’s life to Kim without even being asked for any advice… Not cool in my book … I agree with her statement about Mauricio for IMO, he’s as bad as Kyle with being in Kim’s face & appears to have the same personality as Kyle especially with the ‘I’m right & your wrong’ bit… I beleive when Kim said that he’s ‘ her sisters husband’ says it all & then went on to say that she spends more time & gets along with Rick & of course Kathy… The Hawaii birthday get-a-way? I didn’t hear anyone say that Kyle picked up the whole tab for flights, hotels, outings, dinners, etc. & believe that they were all ‘invited’, however, paid their own way orrr Bravo perhaps chipped in. So, Kim was late arriving & in my book that was no big deal…. Even Paul arrived later, perhaps due to business but bottom line he arrived later… Kyle made a ‘big deal’ out of it whereas they could have just left a note on her door indicating that they had to leave for the excursion which was preplaned. Also, when Kyle made a point of trying to get Kim to devulge/explain ‘why’ to the’group table’ & Kim said we’ll discuss it later, Kyle went on to say they knew…. Out of line, in my book for if she was really the sis’ she claims to be she would have talked to Kim in private, away from cameras but of course if she’d done that Kyle would have had ‘less camera time’…. I believe that Kim’s issues with Mauricio & Kyle began a very long time ago & we only see snipits of what is actually behind this.. I’m not saying that we ‘should know or are entitled to know’, just saying that there’s alot more to the Kim/Kyle/Mauricio feud…..Bottom line, as far as Kyle/Kim relationship goes, I’m on the Kim train for don’t believe that she owes Kyle anything & was right in telling her to ‘enjoy herself & to stop getting on her case’. It was obvious Kim didn’t feel the need to be at their side every minute for camera time but did attend M’s birthday dinner. Lisa said it best when she told Kyle that she was going to have to either accept Kim for who she is or walk away….
Lisa……… I’m glad that Lisa is alright & that the skin cancer didn’t spread & was caught in time…. I admire this woman in so many ways for she’s a savvy business woman & hands on ; extremely wealthy but humble; her sense of humor; snarky wit & the ability to ‘let loose’ & have fun too….. Huge Lisa fan here……:)
All of the above is JMO only………
Couldn’t agree more with you! And what about that moron Kyle saying to Brandi at the party have another cocktail, when that liar Taylor could barely stand up? What!!! And, why the hell did Adrienne bring up Lisa at the party when poor Lisa wasn’t even there? Is she serious? Got to say, just about done with this franchise. Way too much B.S.
One hot mess. But I want to touch on how Bravo chose to edit Lisa and the skin cancer out,this was indeed a real situation and yet Bravo decided to put in cray cray Taylor and FAKE abuse. Yes I do think Taylor and Russell drank way to much and then would fight with each other. But makes me wonder what Bravo is really doing ???
Roxy, I have another one for you regarding your favorite, Mob Wives. I tried to contact privately but it goes to twitter and I don’t know how to use twitter. Anyway, read the book titled, “A Mob Story” by Michele R. Mcphee. Guess whose name is throughout the book? None other than Lee Davanzo. The book is based on Chris Paciello, a former mobster/rat. Guess who also has a guest mention in the book? Karen Gravano, Jen Gravano and some woman named Ramona. I don’t know if this is the same as Ramona Rizzo. Also, there are mentions of the Rizzo name in the book as well. I can’t remember but it’s either Rizzo brothers or Rizzo Nephew and Uncle. I don’t know if they are in relation to Ramona Rizzo. I do know that Drita’s husband is mentioned several times. Read it. It’s sort of cool. Nothing bad on the women or Lee but it’s neat that they are mentioned in the book. The book was written long before the Mob Wives were even heard of.
Interesting! Does this book say Lee was definitely in the mob? Because Ramona tried to say he was ‘just a common bank robber’ but wasn’t in organized crime/a mob family during the sit down show. I generally don’t trust a thing Ramona says and considering the name of the book, it sounds like he was in the mob, right?
You’ll have to buy the book if you want to know more. lol
Lee was the leader of a gang called the New Springville Boys. They were notorious and yes, murders Included. When I say the mention of Lee was no big deal, I meant that he wasn’t committing crimes against average, everyday civilians. Lee Is connected to the Bonanno family. I don’t think the Bonanno family is accepted into the mob family yet. I know, It’s confusing. It’s a very confusing story the Bonanno and the five families but the New York and Jersey Bosses don’t include the Bonanno family in their sit downs. They do vote to include the Bonanno’s again but apparently, the New York families still refuse them full access. The Bonanno’s are notorious for selling drugs apparently, but don’t they all sell drugs? Yes. There must be more to it.
Technically, yes, Lee is connected and is in fact with the mafia but he doesn’t have say. I guess that’s the best way to put it and that’s why Karen keeps saying Lee is not part of the mob. That’s bullshit though. Lee is and I doubt very, very, verrry much Karen would ever say that to Lee’s face. He is mob.
Thanks for all the info! I didn’t know the Bonnano family wasn’t considered part of the families – or at least have no voting rights. I too assumed they all sold drugs, at least in the past 20 or so years? John Gotti Jr was arrested on drug trafficking. Yeah, Lee must be “in” the mob, there is just some technicality to all of it, as you say.
I love all this info for find it very interesting….. Thanks!!!
Does that book have any photos of what Lee looks like? Just curious of what he looks like …….
Sharon Lea, this a list which contain the names of all the Bonanno family members. Lee is on the list. So, the point is that Ramona and Karen are in fact full of it and in their own odd way, are jealous because Drita’s husband is a real mobster.
http://www.italymob.com/index.php?cstart=2&do=cat&category=bonanno
By the way, Renee’s father was the head of the Bonanno family.
Ok, so now I’m more confused. How could Renee’s father be head of that family, and Lee was part of it, but Ramona says he wasn’t a mobster?
I sooooo wish we could get a clip of the Wendy Wms show the day she had on Jennifer Esposito – she grew up with these gals and said Drita was always cool with her and that the rest were ‘mean girls’ to her, and they were fighting about the same things! Sounds like “Lee” was always the issue (comment below) LOL!!! I totally believe Jennifer, I can just see Karen holding onto this old argument, for decades…
OMG – found the clip!
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/06/jennifer-esposito-bullied-mob-wives_n_1257461.html
Sharon, scroll down through the comments on this page until you see this name. You left a comment for the person but then I left some more interesting stuff there to about Lee and who his family members are. Look for this ….—————————————————–
madamedummy on February 18, 2012 at 8:28 am said:
lee d’avanzo is an ‘associate’ of the mob ..
It’s weird for me to write in your name, Sharon Lea. I have a name close to that that I used for several years now. My other screen name is Sharon Lynn. lol. Just strange that’s all.
Just goes to show ya…
It’s always about Lee!
No kidding! LOL
Love your witty post……:)
I am surprised that not so many people are commenting on Kim’s not so sober interview. She may not be drinking but her being called clean is an insult to all those people out there really struglling with addiction and actually r clean.
A lot of us did right after the reunion.
Kinda goes without saying…poor Kim.
It’s a process!
I think Kim is probably still taking her anxiety meds. which give her the effects of being on something for sure. Remember when she was listing them to Paul and he even stated that’s why her eyelids were half shut and slurred speak….. But I agree she definitely is not being completely honest here…
never did read kyle’s explanation of the house thing, but it seems to me that if the Umanskys hadn’t gotten it out of Kim’s hands, she would have used all her collateral on drugs anyway – they did the whole family a favor -
The only drugs we know Kim has taken were prescription drugs and if she has a health plan like mine her prescriptions are free.
In the lost footage Kim says she is not on good terms with Mauricio because of many issues that have built up over the years and his acting like an ass-hat over the ‘the truth will set you free’ was the straw the broke the camel’s back. When you consider that Mo is a very successful real estate agent in LA it’s very hard to believe he’s a 100% truthful person. You have to at least bend the truth and be a little phony to be a successful salesman and trying to act like you’re the king of truth is just too over-the-top phony.
I think that Mauricio has been dishonest with Kim or has done things that make her dislike him and she is not going into the details because he is Kyle’s husband and bringing out those details would hurt Kyle and her nieces.
To be clear, I’m sure what bothered Kim about Mauricio pretending to be so into the ‘truth’ is that he was only using it as an excuse to call her a liar in front of a bunch of tv cameras so it could be broadcast to the world.
Why would he want to prove Kim was a liar?
Hmmmm – could it be because she called him a thief so she must be a liar??
*ding ding ding*
I want to know what’s up with the house situation, too! I still don’t get it. Commenter Nicole sort of touched on it but it still sounds like Kim was borrowing against her share of the house (25 large?) and Kyle wanted to buy out Kim and Kathy but maybe gave Kim an *unfair* share? Someone please elaborate!
I mean, if all she got was the $25,000 as 1/3 share that sounds pretty low for that house. If the 25 grand were taken out of her 1/3 share (since she already ‘borrowed’ that amount) that Kyle paid, then I’d understand.
Ultimately I think it has to do with the fact that Kim moved back to that home when her mom dying to take care of her and considered it her “home” because at one time it was…
We won’t know for sure, but I think there was some underhanded dealings on Kyle’s part and ultimately Kyle forced her sister to move out and acquired a mortgage on the place to pay as their down payment for their new house and took possession. At least that’s what the property history indicates happened. They quickly acquired the house then maxed out the equity and put the money down on their new home. They also got a good deal on the home from the estate and technically that hurts Kim, as Kim stood to make an extra 20 or so grand had they sold it properly. It was worth about 500-600 thousand.
Kyle explained that she bought out both her sister’s share and that 25,000 was what Kim gave her to buy back in. In the show, Kim said she took out 25,000 from her share. I think Kyle and Mauricio bought out the rest of Kim’s share minus that 25,000 because they had already given it to her. When Kim tried to buy back in she only gave what she originally took out. That’s my interpretation of it at least. But I do agree with Nicole that IF Mauricio and Kyle stole the house why is that Kyle was willing to discuss the house on the reunion but Kim refused to? That’s another reason why I think it was a misunderstanding on Kim’s part. And let’s be honest, Kim isn’t exactly the brightest tool in the shed and she probably misunderstood the whole situation.
I just watched the first season reunion and they never discussed the house so Kim did not ‘refuse to discuss it’. Here’s the portion of the reunion where Kim and Kyle discuss their issues.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4jiFRC2KDQ
BTW I also noticed when Kyle said Mauricio took care of Kim like a wife Kim said “That’s a lie.”
it wasn’t on the reunion show where kyle was trying to talk about the house, it was some other interview that they did for season 1. i don’t remember exactly which one, but it is true that when kyle tried to talk about the house situation, kim shut it down.
Kim isn’t stupid. Kim has photographic memory – she can recount any conversation verbatim. She was always right in recounting that Taylor/Camille/Kyle fight.
It seems unfair to Kim that a well known, top selling real estate agent happened to be the brother-in-law that got the house. He knows all the ins and outs of the law – and Kim wound up with nothing? She had such an attachment to that house, I can’t imagine her ever totally letting it go. And if she did, was she drunk? That wasn’t fair to make a deal if she wasn’t in her right state of mind.
Kim was probably afraid that Kyle would do what she always does. Over ride everything Kim says and make her feel like a fool. Kyle is just a bully and gets her way by talking over everyone.
I seem to recall that their Mother left it to both girls and that Vyle and Mauricio bought her out at her request. Was it a fair offer, apparently Kim thought so at the time. Who knows what she did with the money but I think you hit the nail on the head. I personally feel that they, the Umanskys, got a steal of a deal. Kyle of course will justify it in her own mind and color it what ever way makes her look good.
in the end when Taylor is talking to Adrienne and DeeDee why is taking off her bra? It just doesn’t seem like the right time or place for that
LOL!
bwahaha… I noticed that too! And that is why Kyle and Taylor feigning disgust at anything/everything Brandi does or says comes off as phoney and bitchy.
Why was Taylor trying to pull of her shirt? Did I miss something?
Lots of great comments. I would like to see Lisa, Camille and Adrienne come back for the next season. Up in the air with Brandi. She is great at calling other cast members out on their issues, when no one else will (Kyle, Kim, Taylor) but she appears to have many issues of her own, and doesn’t have a great filter, just blurts out whatever happens to be on her mind at the moment. Truth can be a good thing, but she loses credibility sometimes, because she is over the top at times, in my opinion.
Kim should have never been on the show; I believe Kyle convinced her this would be a great idea for financial reasons, as I do believe Kim has no money and can be a drain financially. Their mother’s house – the whole thing stinks, and I do think the whole thing is “hokey” although Kim’s credibility is not that great as she has not functioned well at all due to her substance abuse issues. But I do think Kyle may have been looking our for herself financially in this whole mess, citing Kim’s “problems,” so I don’t believe her either.
I honestly can not stand Kyle. Used to like her, but the longer she has been on the show, the more she is showing herself for what she really is and it is NOT attractive at all.
Won’t even comment on Taylor- has been said time and time again. Bravo needs their heads examined if they bring her back. After all that has happened, they would be insane to consider her as a cast member.
Should be interesting to see who returns. My guess is it will be all of them, because that is how Bravo rolls, as they have many issues on their hands with this cast.
lee d’avanzo is an ‘associate’ of the mob ..
Is that like a ‘sub-contractor’? Like, when they need something done and they don’t have anyone, they go to him? I don’t understand the org chart for mafia! LOL
Madamedummy, no Lee is a soldier with the Bonanno family. Also, Lee’s father and uncle were made members. Also, Lee is related to Rudolph Giuliani. R. Giuliani also wrote a book and he also notes his connection with Lee’s father.
Lee was born into the mafia. So, was Karen. Karen only had one member in her family who was in the mob, her father. So she wants to think she’s the real deal but disregards Lee as the real deal when he has several members of his family tied to the mob? No, Lee is a soldier with the Bonanno family. Lee is no wannabe Like I said, if Lee were not in prison, Karen and Ramona wouldn’t have the balls to call Lee a wannabe on television.
Oh yea, Lee’s family members were MADE.
Sharon Lea, like many, young males who are raised around the mob strive to become a member and then made. Lee started the New Springville Boys and he started to ‘earn’ a lot of money. Eventually he earned so much that he was able to have the back-up of the Bonanno boss and Lee did kick up a lot of money. Eventually he did become a soldier for the Bonanno family. That makes him a member. Nobody knows yet if he was ever made because he has spent most of his years in prison.
One last thing and then I’ll stop with all of this. When Lee is out of prison, he will be well respected. More so now than ever before. He did a lot of time and he did so without taking others down with him. He earned his wings proving he is no rat. He did his time like a man. He will be received very well. Karen and Ramona should watch their P’s and Q’s. They are saying shit about Lee on television and making him out like a cookie. That doesn’t fly well with men in the mob. Not Well At All. If Lee gets out of prison anytime soon, something tells me Karen will be forced to go back to Arizona and Ramona will be forced out of Staten Island.
Sorry, but as much as I respect each person’s right to their own opinion, I could never understand anyone being a fan of Kyle’s. Sisters have issues, but no matter how serious they might be, you don’t harrangue, humiliate, embarrass your sister – or anyone – in front of others. Someone should tell Kyle that is on the same list with not showering and not having sex w/ hubby, etc. on television. NOTHING will ever top the limo disaster at the end of season 1; horrifying and unbelievably cruel. Taylor set Kim up and Kyle jumped in and took it to an unexcusable end. Kim and Ken were definitely annoying and rude on the Hawaii trip, but to keep going at Kim in front of everyone just made Mauricio and Kyle look mean and petty and lacking in good manners – they were making their other guests extremely uncomfortable which is #1 NONO in being a good host. If they had been gracious and just let it go until later in private, I would have actually had some real respect for them. That family is a psychiatrist’s dream! Is there just one housewife who hasn’t bought into her own PR that she is a “star” who deserves all her fans……but not her critics?? There may be others, but the only one I have seen actually improve their image to me is Camille.
I agree with you – Kyle uses that arm/finger to point and lunge. It’s very agressive and weird, and as you say, there are cameras present – hello?!
I agree with you, good post!!!!!
IA too, that and even the way she needed to always talk poorly of her sister to the women her sister was trying to build a relationship with on season one. Everytime Kim started to become sorta comfortable or look good around them, like the night of that party, kyle had to knock her.
The party with the limo scene? Taylor is the one that started that argument.
Right when Kim came in that night, looking good and talking with ppl, Kyle said something to Lisa about her drinking in front of camera’s (public).
Kyle always treated her sister poorly in front of the other woman. She bought her sister on and when Kim tried to build a relationship with some of the other woman Kyle would (as a previous poster said) harangue, humiliate, and embarrass Kim. Kim called Taylor on her actions and Kyle didn’t like it. Kim could not support Kyle with her accusations against Camille (because I’m really close to positive that Kyle DID indeed say something very close, if not exactly what Camille said she did last season). Kim couldn’t fully support Kyle on that and Kyle made her suffer because of that. I could never understand why Kyle had so many fans last season because as far as I’m’ concerned she hasn’t changed at all (or even gotten worse) I think she’s the same. As far as Lisa is concerned, I don’t think her snark is at all classy or funny. She supported Kyle in the way she behaved with Kim and that’s not how a mature, friend would behave. Everyone gives her credit for telling Kyle that she has to accept Kim the way she is, yet she climbs over a wall with Kyle and then when Kim comes to the door jumps on her case. Last season when Kim told Kyle she was faked by Taylor and Lisa (and then quickly took back the accusation about Lisa) showed me that she recognized that Lisa was really Kyle’s friend but NOT kind to her. The only housewife who has truly been kind to Kim has been Adrienne, I think she actually enjoys Kim. Camille is pleasant to her but I’m sure Kim is not really her type of girlfriend) but she did seem to appreciate that Kim wouldn’t and couldn’t support Kyle in her problem with Camille.
ITA with you on all.
I agree- One of the reasons I like Adrienne is because she did not jump on Kyle’s bandwagon in bad mouthing Kim, and actually went out of her way to try to be kind to her when no one else did.
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