Kim Zolciak’s Mother Suing Her Over Grandchildren Visitation Rights
Kim Zolciak, star of RHOA, has had a rocky relationship with her mother Karen Zolciak as we witnessed on the finale of her Bravo spin off “Don’t Be Tardy For The Wedding”. It is being reported that Karen has sued Kim for visitation rights because the grandmother has not seen Kim and Kroy’s children in a while, and has not yet met her newest grandchild, baby Kash!
According to a Tamara Tattles source close to the case, “Plaintiff is seeking the right to regularly see her granddaughters, who are the daughters of Kim Zolciak Biermann, who is a star on “The Real Housewives of Atlanta. The girls live such a crazy, abnormal life being on T.V., they need a normal haven to relax and unwind and just be kids. Plaintiff was portrayed as a bad person on defendant’s show Don’t Be Tardy for the Wedding which featured defendant’s wedding to Kroy Bierrman. In addition, plaintiff claims she has not seen defendant’s new baby since he was born.”
To me this seems a bit ridiculous, especially if Kim, the children’s parent, is the one in control. Sure, this is their grandmother, but the parents have the final say in who gets to see their kids and who does not! From what we’ve seen of Karen on TV, I wouldn’t put something like this past her, to be honest. Do you think Karen is a little out of line for suing her daughter?
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I think this is out of line. And it was pretty clear on TFTW she was disrespectful and out of line at the wedding! The way her and her sister berated and completely disregarded Kim and Kroys wishes proved what kind of character she has. She had no regard or respect for them on their wedding and made a circus out of nothing! Her and that sister of hers kept egging each other on and talking trash about kroy and Kim. So I can see where Kim is coming from.instead of this circus show in court her mom should try and mend things. Given the circumstances I don’t blame Kim and this this says a lot about her mom.
I think Kim’s mother is jealous of her own daughter. She really comes across as if she has something wrong with her, like a mental health disorder. Her behavior toward her daughter is very manipulative and cruel.
The parents do not have the final say! Grandparent rights are recognized in every state. Unless they prove the grandparent unfit they can drag both unwilling parents into a court room and demand visitation just like a parent. I know someone who has done it. They get one day a week and one weekend a month for grandparent rights and the parents do not speak to the grandfather!
But… isnt Kims momma a heavy drinker? LOL
Yep, she is a very heavy drinker and jealous of Kim.
And in some states 1 parent has to be deceased or incarcerated for those rights to apply!!!
Isn’t Kim a heavy drinker also? And a Mistress?
I thought the supreme court threw out grandparents rights years ago.
Say What – Your totally right. My neighbor has legal visitation. She has her grandaughter 3-4 days week & trade holidays. Since her daughter (was a screw up) and lost all custody to the father, the grandmom petitioned & won rights. Its been like this for 8 years & works fine for both families. This is PA. Not sure of other states.
I live in NC and had to find out the hard way…grandparents “rights” do not exist in NC. I married into an insane family and after a VERY long list of horrible things done to my husband and I we decided it would not be safe for our daughter to be around her grandparents. They tried to play the “grandparent rights” card and were laughed out of court.
Your right. Kim needs to cut ties with her permanently before the Grandmother turns the kids againt her.
Yes, Kim’s mom seems jealous, like she is a famewhore herself. It’s sad. Her father seems so normal and supportive. He should reign Kim’s mom in and tell her to cut it out.
No, Kim is a dirty, low down, user mistress type, that does not care about anyone but herself. She seeks people out that can help her or make her look good. Her mother did nothing bad during the wedding process. She only wanted to be part of the planning…what mom would not? Then, she wanted her sister to use the bathroom in the house. Who makes their auts, mothers, grandmothers use port-a-potties (I don’t care how nice the pots are)? It’s called respect. Kim was being a bi***. That is why her best friend also did not want to be a part of the bull. She has no friends. Only Kandi showed up and her Bridal Shower because Kandi is a nice person. And we know how Kim f’d over her so that friendship is not deep. Kandi shows up at everyones events, she even supports NeNe and we know they don’t have a good relationship. Everyone around Kim is on payroll or wants to be on TV. She treats her frinds and family like dirt…ie Sweetie, Kendra (ex friend/landlord). Kroy will see eventually. This girl is a hot ass mess. AND YES, GRANDPARENTS HAVE RIGHTS.
And this is exactly why Karen can’t see her grandchildren. Any mother who would sue her own child just to humiliate them for attention is someone you need to keep out of your life until they get better.
Mothers and Fathers sue their grown up “kids’ for many reasons! Goodness, you need to get out more!!!
Way out of line! Its up to Kim to reconcile with her Mother. This will only make the situation worse. Karen made a drunk ass out of herself at her daughters WEDDING , for all to see on national t.v.! She’s very weird, Karen is. Maybe because she’s an alcoholic!!
I think Kim’s mom does have some sort of substance abuse problem.
There was something very off about her and the way her father controlled her. It was just weird.
She looks like a heavy drinker right? Alcoholics have something odd about their eyes or something. Not sure what it is, but she deffinetly looks like she has some sort of problem.
She looks anorexic to me. Which is no joking matter if its true. I have no idea. Just making an observation. She looks like a skeleton who hasn’t eaten in years.
Maybe thats it. You can tell somethings not right with her but no idea what it is.
Only Kim knows her mother. There has to b good cause. I do think suing her is only going to complicate the situation more. Kim is there mother and if she feels it is best for them not to, then u hv to respect it.
I’m not a Kim fan but having watched Don’t be Tardy for the Wedding, it was plainly obvious there are some deep seated issues between those two.
There is something odd about Kim’s Dad too.
Kim’s mom does not look very healthy either. She looked very unhealthy-skinny.
I actually felt really uncomfortable watching the fight at the wedding. It was another one of those times where I was beginning to see the consequences of reality shows.
And Kim’s mom threaten to burn down Kim & Kroy’s mansion if they didn’t let her in the main house to use their private bathroom.
I THINK kIM CAN BEND HER ELBOW WITH THE WINE TOO// lIKE MOTHER LIKE DAUGHTER//BUT I DO THINK KIM’S MOTHER IS ON THE SIDE OF MENTAL……I REALLY WOULDN’T TRUST HER…….
See, I did not really watch the show! I tuned in here and there when nothing else was on. I didn’t like what I saw between Kim and many other people, let alone her Mother. Kim doesn’t seem all there either at times, just saying. Hopefully she is more chill since she is married with 2 more kids. On RHOA it seems she always had her parents helping with things, and at her fingertips! Guess things changed when Kroy came into the picture?
I think she always had her dad helping. I believe Kim and her mom were always estranged through the years. Remember kim was having an affair with the police chief or something when she was 16! Kim can probably use that against her mom in court. But she can win grandparent visitation rights rather kim likes it or not! Also , the girls are old enough to make the choice themself. If they tell the judge (and they will be asked!) they want to see their grandmother, they will get to see their grandmother. Nothing Kim can do to stop it.
Yes, I forgot about that police chief scandal. Someone needs to write a tell all about Mrs. Kimmy. How she slept her way to the top. There are a few scandals that seem really juciy. The police chief thing, her 1st husband comming from a rich family and the father paying Kim lots of child support, one of the baby daddy’s in jail for messing with a minor, the whole Big Poppa thing, oh and who was the super old guy she was with in Florida (was that Big Poppa #2)?
I sure hope there isn’t a court that would give Kim’s mother visitation rights if it’s against Kim and Kroy’s will.
Personally I think there’s something wrong with Kim’s mother and clearly if their relationship has broken down, it’s not a good thing for Kim’s girls. Her girls seems lovely, respectful and very happy. For Kim’s mom to attack Kim over her being on the show and exposing the girls on TV is not going to help mend their relationship.
And why isn’t her Father doing anything?
Maybe she only lets her Dad visit.
It could very well be that Kim allows her dad to see her kids but not her mother. And it may be for reasons well known to all of them but something her mother is in denial over. This seems to be a dramatic attempt to hurt her daughter publicly and try to gain sympathy for herself.
It’s doubtful she’ll get any considering we’ve seen enough of her to realize Kim’s mom is not all there.
Also Kim’s girls are old enough to say if they want to see their Grandma or not and maybe they don’t want to and that should be respected.
I had a similar experience when I was young.
I had a very wealthy grandmother who was also a mean, very evil and abusive bigot. When my mom died (her daughter) I told my Dad I no longer wanted any more contact with her and he made sure that happened.
Strangely enough I was still in her will. I inherited a 65 Mustang and a very beat up old house that needed lots of repairs.
I ended up selling the house to a Family at a cheap price. (That she would hate having live there) and I kept the car because of my husbands begging. LOL
I also wonder if the Dad has been allowed to visit. The Mom has been pretty dramatic, she was really acting out during the lead up and actual wedding – this is a tough situation.
On the show kim seemed to have a good relationship with her dad (a creepy relationship!) but wouldnt speak to her mother. Remember she kicked her mom out of the wedding reception but not her dad!! haha
I agree, I know lots of people with crazy parents they’d never leave their kids with. The court ordering a weekend a month (!!!!!) would be totally out of line. Maybe supervised visits 5 times a year at the parents’ convenience, but apart from that it should be up to the parents who they trust their kids with when they’re not there.
Kim Kim Kim. Kim Zolciak is so stupid. I don’t care what your mama does or doesn’t do, you have to respect her. It’s especially important while your kids are watching. They see you disrespect your parents and they’ll disrespect you. Besides Kim better retain as many relationships that she had before RHOA and Kroy, because when its all said and done and she returns to the trailer park, theyre are the ones that are going to stand by her.
I don’t think it’s a sign of disrespect if Kim is putting the health and safety of her girls first and distancing herself from her mother. She may have good cause and no doubt she does. Kim’s mom seems cray cray. lol
I totally disagree. Kim has every right to protect her children, even from their grandmother. Remember that Kim’s mother also threatened to burn down her house during her wedding reception!
Also from all indications, her mother has a severe drinking problem as well. So I say good for Kim for standing up to her mother and doing what’s best for her kids. Perhaps if Karen can deal with her own issues then the situation can be re-evaluated.
ITA Lia and Daisy – respect should be a two-way street- and the mother isn’t respectful to Kim, Kroy or the Dad. She won’t listen to anyone.
Andrea, it’s not so cut and dry like that. When you have toxic family, it is what it is. There is a difference between respect and allowing emotional abuse and drama, and the latter is not healthy for children to see either.
Karen seems crazy…I mean I couldn’t believe on DBTFTW when her sister and her were talking so much crap about Kim. To the audience it looked like jealousy. I think she is crazy and I hope this doesn’t even get in front of a judge. From what I have seen on TV and witter Kim is a good mom!
That lady is out of her mind, grandparents can not request any type of legal actions towards their grand children, totally refering to visitations, they can request the legal action only if they are going thru abuse, and they need to prove it, it is even more ridiculous that any respectable attorney will take this type of complain! And if Kim doesn’t let her see her kids, she will have her reasons, no need for the negative energy
Kim has been respectful toward her mom in that we didn’t know anything about this situation. Now because her megalomaniac mother is making this public, no doubt even threatening her daughter to do so if she didn’t cave in to her demands, it’s all public knowledge now. That is not good for Kim’s kids so looks like Grandma just dug a deeper hole for herself.
Emily they can! There were a few cases years back, as funny as it may sound! Im not sure if they actually won their cases, but its not rare. Started about 20 years ago maybe, there was a rise in Grandparents fighting for their “rights”. I think thats was mostly due to more and more Grandparents we see these days are heavily involved in the rearing of Grandkids! Some may do it because of unfit parenting, raising them then taken away by parents, moving away and parents stop visits, etc..
My father in law has tried for the past 2 years to get to see his other grandkids, and any attorney that we have gone to they say no! Then again Idk if it something here in Jersey or what! We even went to one that used to be a prosecutor, he explained the whole situation to this exprosecutor and he said no, that family courts doesn’t grant grandparent legal right such as visitations, and it’s a total different situation from Kim’s, his ex daughter in law is just a b…
Grandparents CAN request visitation their are laws that provide them with visitation just like a parent!
My brother is estranged from his son, they fight… bad. He was a teenage dad, and his son is a teenage dad. he and his girlfriend took their son away from him knowing the son had a strong bond with his grandpa. He fought for grandparent rights and won! I believe every state in the US recognizes granparent rights, if they didnt we wouldnt be hearing about this.
My brother, doesnt speak to the mom or dad but gets his grandson one day a week and one weekend a month per court order!
P.S.. The parents refused to give the visitation days that were court ordered and my brother filed a motion to hold them in contempt. They were both charged with coontempt of court and a warrent was issued. They were not arrested but appeared in court where the judge went OFF on them! Grandparent rights are just as serious as parental rights in a court of law.
My father in law has tried for the past 2 years to get to see his other grandkids, and any attorney that we have gone to they say no! Then again Idk if it something here in Jersey or what! We even went to one that used to be a prosecutor, he explained the whole situation to this exprosecutor and he said no, that family courts doesn’t grant grandparent legal right such as visitations, and it’s a total different situation from Kim’s, his ex daughter in law is just a b…
But since u say that it’s such a possibility thing I’ll get him to keep trying!!
I would ask a few more lawyers who deal in family law. Here is link to New Jerseys grandparent rights. All states have rights, some have stronger guidlines than others but in New Jersey the longer you wait the harder it is!
http://www.divorcehq.com/articles/nj_divorce_grandparent_visitation.shtml
Actually they are not when the grandparent has never established a relationship with the child. Only in certain states where the child clearly has shared a relationship/bond with the grandparents that they can attempt to sue for those rights. In this case the mother has never met the new grandbabies and they are to young to even know who she is if kim and kroy were to allow her to see them. Theres a huge difference here in her suing without ever being a part of their life since birth.
Most states wont allow grandparent rights unless the parents are unwed, divorced or one of the two parents are dead.
She doesnt have a chance in hell of getting visitation of the two boys but it appears she is mainly going after visitation of the girls which she has established a grandparent relationship with.. The problem is, the girls are old enough to speak for themself, just like in a child custody case.. the judge WILL ask the girls if they wish to see their grandmother. In the end its completly up to the girls.. not kim or her mother.
Honestly, Unless she is using the girls against kim, talking badly about kim, pumping them for info or is unstable… kim is wrong to keep the girls away from her. They are too old to be in a custody battle with their grandmother. They are old enough to make their own choices.
Not a fan of Kim, but she does not have to allow her mother to see her kids. It has nothing to do with respect. She could very well respect her mother, but keep the kids away from her because it’s obvious that Kim’s mother is slightly off her rocker.
Wow. WAY out of line. This woman needs to NOT compete with her daughter, or need to put herself in the center of every universe she’s connected to. It’s selfish, needy, and a wrecking ball for everybody else.
Plus, she should be old enough to realize the babies’ needs are most important, not hers.
It could be out of line, but Im almost certain that Kim had her parents help since those girls were born, as her first marriage did not last too long and the girls were very , very young. When you are a Grandparent and used to helping out so much with the kids, it hurts to have them pulled back from you. When Kim was a single parent for many years, Big Poppa or not, her parents most likely were with those girls! Before she had assistants and stylists to watch them, who did? Probably Granny!
You are right, Kim’s oldest girls spent a lot of time with their grandmother.
If my mother pulled something like this on me, I would NEVER talk to her again. There’s definitely something “off” about Karen — I mean more than the obvious alcoholism.
First off her mother can’t do shit! If a lawyer picks up this suit I would doubt his credentials and whether or not he/she ever passed the bar. Grandparents only get those rights if they have already established a relationship with the child/children over a long period of time most often years. No court in their right mind would even entertain a grandparent like this lady get any rights to children who do not even know her. She’s clearly a nut to even think she has a leg to stand on. She’s a few fries short of a happy meal.
Check out grandparent rights for Georgia!
http://www.getadivorceatlanta.com/2012/05/georgia-governor-signs-landmark-grandparent-rights-law.shtml
I think it should be up to the older girls, completely. Kim & Kroy should be able to make the decisions about the babies,,,The grand mother seems to cause problems whenever she can.
Karen made an ass of herself and was completely disrespectful at the wedding. She should stop it.
From what ive seen on dont be tardy, kim was actually very thoughtful to her mother considering how she bought a nice designer gown for her mom, (and mother in law) and remember when she went crazy over the pair of shoes she didnt have the day of the wedding? Instead of letting her daughter relax and enjoy her moment she made her get up and look for shoes. How about when kim and kroy disinvited her to the food tasting with colin cowie cause she only wanted to be there cause colin was a “celebrity stylist” and not there to support her daughter and future son in law? And she threw a fit and told kim she would be “sick” on kims wedding day. When kims dad made karen apologize she kept laughing…its so crazy. She acts like kim is her sister and she needs to be in competition with her, wake up karen shes your DAUGHTER! the way karen acts i would NEVER let my kids near her. I dont care if shes a mother, mothers should still have respect for her kids, and kim isnt a baby, shes “30″ something with 4 kids. Its just not okay anymore.
I think its sad. But I do get a parent’s right to keep their kids away from crazy.
I have a pretty decent relationship with my mom, unfortunately a few years ago she got really into her church that routinely preaches hate towards gays. I didn’t know this until she took my daughter to church with her one day and she came home telling me how awful the church was. I told my mom she can believe whatever she wants but she is no longer allowed to take my daughter to her church I don’t agree with the message of hate towards anyone for any reason and I don’t want my daughter around that kind of speech. And it makes my daughter uncomfortable because she’s been raised in an inclusive home.
She would attempt to sneak in certain comments and take my daughter to her church without telling me so I told her flat out you do it again you will not be able to see your granddaughter unsupervised period.
That stopped it, but a court might not think that is a reason to deny visitation but as a parent I do have the right to protect my child from being surrounded by people spreading information I not only find offensive but blatantly wrong and potentially dangerous.
OHH yes a court would noty allow visitation on those grounds. All the laws say as long as the Grandparent doesnt interfere with the parents teaching or religious beliefs. A grandparent has visitation rights not parental rights. Good for you standing up to your mom!
I think you did a great job. Your mother has the right to believe what she wants but to bring a child there and make them listen to that is horrible!!!! I remember also on dont be tardy when brielle was supposed to spend thr day with her grandma that karen actually flaked on her.. Well, you want visitation rights for your grandkids but yet you flake on them…and brielle is almost a teenager. I know she loves her gram but i’m pretty sure she sees what her grandma is doing to her mom. I’m sure she wont be too happy!
No, Kim is a dirty, low down, user mistress type, that does not care about anyone but herself. She seeks people out that can help her or make her look good. Her mother did nothing bad during the wedding process. She only wanted to be part of the planning…what mom would not? Then, she wanted her sister to use the bathroom in the house. Who makes their auts, mothers, grandmothers use port-a-potties (I don’t care how nice the pots are)? It’s called respect. Kim was being a bi***. That is why her best friend also did not want to be a part of the bull. She has no friends. Only Kandi showed up and her Bridal Shower because Kandi is a nice person. And we know how Kim f’d over her so that friendship is not deep. Kandi shows up at everyones events, she even supports NeNe and we know they don’t have a good relationship. Everyone around Kim is on payroll or wants to be on TV. She treats her frinds and family like dirt…ie Sweetie, Kendra (ex friend/landlord). Kroy will see eventually. This girl is a hot ass mess. AND YES, GRANDPARENTS HAVE RIGHTS.
Jealous mothers can be very dangerous people if allowed to stay in the daughters life. Kim should seek some advise in this area from a professional. If she allows her mother access to her children she risks the Grandmother poisoning their minds. This is true and happens alot. It appears Kim sister is also teaming up with the mom and supports the mothers behavior. Very sick.
http://www.facebook.com/karenzolciak
Hmm. I think there are a lot of issues in that family.. look at Kim’s past behavior on RHOA along with what we have found out along the way in re to her past.Im not saying Granny is an angel, lol, but it appears that something is a little off in the family dynamics maybe? Who knows what Momma Zolciak knows that we the public do not? Its messed up any way you look at it, but I do find it odd that she would keep the girls from her parents especially because they were involved so much over the years.
I forgot to add: Do you think that Kim is all Diva’d up since she married Kroy and has her big fancy lifestyle now ( without being a mistress?)
Kim has a sister??? I knew she had a brother, but a sister>? Was she at the wedding?
I believe it was a sister with the mom that were trash talking her outside the house at the wedding. I guess it could be a sister-in-law.
I thought it was Kim’s Aunt? LOL!
@michers Was she an Aunt? Opps, my Bad. Anyways, the mom seems to have other family aligned to bashing Kim. I dont like that. Kim doesn’t deserve that.
If Kim was my daughter, I would have all sorts of head issues myself. Look what a hotmess that girl has been her whole life. She fell into grace with Kroy. Poor guy. I think once the contract runs out and there is no NFL paycheck, she will be on to the next. He’s not a superstar played like Brady either. The well will dry with her type of spending habits. We have seen richer people go broke.
Grandparents have legal rights to a certain extend but these differ from state to state.
Children are not born a hot mess. More than likely her parents are to blame.. my money is on her mother. lol
I smell a phony,drama filled bravo storyline!
Grandparents’ rights are typically (if not always) applied in DIVORCE cases or where one parent is DECEASED and the grandparents are the parents of the DECEASED parent of the child or the NON-CUSTODIAL grandparents and the non-custodial parent themselves are either not allowed or are not taking visitation rights.
But to have the grandparent of the CUSTODIAL parent sue for “grandparent’s rights”? She has a better chance of seeing God.
Also, for the record? Some states also allow for SIBLING rights. So if you have a child you are custodial parent of and say you have the other parent who is deceased, or not taking visitation with the child, but they have another child with someone else? The mother (assuming women have the custodial rights) of the OTHER child could sue you for visitation rights to YOUR child.
So, I’m a custodial parent.. my ex husband (father of my child dies). I don’t facilitate visitation for my child with her half-sibling or her paternal grandparents? I can get sued by not only the paternal grandparents but ALSO by my ex (now deceased) spouse’s first wife.
But to have MY mother sue me for visitation rights to a child that I have custody of? Never going to be granted.
I live in GA and within the state of Georgia, Grandparents do not have rights. So this will never hold up.
Kim’s mother looks really sick and anorexic. There is something not right with her. She is 55 and looks like she maybe went through a nuclear explosion? She acts jealous of Kim and acts really flaky. Kim’s father seems to be an alcoholic. May be best for the kids not to be around them.