Adrienne Maloof Continues To Deny Any Litigation Against Brandi; Wonders Why Yolanda Talks About Her!
Brandi Glanville has been stating on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills that Adrienne Maloof sent a letter asking her to not discuss her personal life, and has also state that Adrienne is suing her. Adrienne denied this on Monday’s episode after the two ladies FINALLY came face to face and she is sticking to her story in her Bravo blog this week! Additionally, Adrienne is wondering why Yolanda would talk about her behind her back when she herself admitted that she doesn’t even know her. Adrienne writes:
This week’s episode contained numerous references by Brandi and the other women to a lawsuit that I allegedly filed against Brandi. Further, Brandi claims that my lawyer sent her a cease and desist letter and asked her to sign something giving up her right to speak.
I want to be 100 percent clear that there is no lawsuit, a fact which can be confirmed by a simple search of court records. Further, neither I, nor my lawyer, have ever sent a letter to Brandi. Earlier this year, my lawyer did send a letter to a former business associate of mine whom I believed was disclosing confidential information about me and my family to third parties, including Brandi. This is the only thing I can think of that might have prompted this week’s discussion. I am disappointed that not only have my family and my children been put through everything that this season has brought, but also that I am now being painted as a liar. There was no letter to Brandi and, most importantly, there is no lawsuit, as she keeps claiming.
As for the comments made against me by Yolanda, as she said, she doesn’t know me, therefore, why is she speaking behind my back.
I truly hope that we can close this chapter and all move on. I am looking forward to a more positive 2013. Thank you to all my friends and fans who continue to trust and support me.
I really just have a hard time believing Adrienne! Why would Brandi say she got a letter from lawyers if she didn’t? I just don’t see why she would get anything from making that up. Also, Adrienne seemed super sketchy when denying this to Brandi. She kept deflecting over to Bernie and that other story, dodging the issue at hand.
Also, if she really didn’t take any legal action, why would the whole “secret” that Brandi divulged get edited out of the episodes? Clearly she did take some sort of legal action if even Bravo had to censor the footage even though they filmed it and Adrienne signed off to film the show!
As for Yolanda, clearly she was just talking about Adrienne from the lawsuit situation with Brandi only. She said “who is Adrienne Maloof in this world?” meaning she is not any bigger than anybody else despite her money and should not use that to intimidate people.
Do you believe Adrienne is saying the truth? If so, why would Brandi make this up?!
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Hoof, you are lying. All you do is threaten and lie. You allow your employee to spread those lies. You took action, intimidation action, against Brandi because you were angry at her. You are a coward, not a woman. You sent a letter, a warning shot with the threat of suing.
To a woman who cannot afford to play the litigation game- Adrienne tried to shut Brandi up by showing Brandi how Adrienne can tie up any money Brandi may have.
That’s what I believe also. She may not have went through with lawsuit after she recieved all the backlash but she most certainly sent her lawyers after Brandi to scare her and make Brandi shell out money she doesn’t have to get a lawyer.
What backlash? This was all filmed around June-July of last year, there is no way to know if there would be a backlash unless Adrienne now can read minds as well.
there was still backlash because it semi-aired on twitter
i remember seeing something about it over the summer.
Very easy to disprove Adrienne’s allegations, present or show the lawsuit to any cast member on air, let them read it, send it to the media and it is done. I will be waiting.
Exactly, show us the letter
B tweeted yesterday that it will be shown on next weeks episode
Oh good. If so, then A is a lying bitch! But until then, she is innocent until proven guilty.
This is a big game of symantics for Adriene supporters. Rarely does a suit make it to court. Its always delt with in mediation and only a FOOL would get a C&D and not obtain a lawyer to repspond.
I cant beleieve this is even being questioned.
Yep
If a lawsuit if filed then there is a record regardless if it was dismissed or withdrawn without an answer. That is absolute fact.
A lawsuit means a complaint was filed. If no complaint was filed then no lawsuit. It is not semantics it is fact.
All complaints are public records and viewable to the public unless it is in family court.
A C&D is NOT a lawsuit. It is a request to refrain from doing an action or maning statments. It is NOT a lawsuit.
IT’s a threat of a lawsuit if things are negotiated. And obviously Adrienes terms were not reasonable. SEMANTICS!
It can be. But that is a real stretch of the work semantics.
You see you cannot successful defend a C&D. All she can do is a response and meeting. In her response she could claim issues for the basis of countersuits. But what else can she do. There is no defense.
I am not trying to be an ass about it. I just think this $20K is out of left field to gain sympathy.
I cannot believe Brandi without scans and a detailed and itemized receipt.
Word…
Jennifer, you already told everyone about the C&D on another thread. Please stop!!!!
SoCal,
I can say whatever I want as many times that I want, if I feel it is relevant and I do. Thank you.
OK CATFISH!
So there are 2 internet lawyers on here now??? Some of us would just like to comment for fun! If we wanted an education on legal matters we would’ve gone to “Google Law School”!
We all know how to “Google”!!! A couple of comments are fine but EVERY SINGLE THREAD???? Come on! It seems some are trying too hard to convince others of all of their “expertise”…. Wow, really makes these threads BORING!!! ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
Say what, she can produce the letter of settlement. It doesn’t exist, bc there has been no law suit. Brandi lied. Plain and simple.
Here, let me ask you something, if Brandi said I lied, would u then believe it, or would you excuse that as well??
Brandi did not lie. Adriene admits it in the ABOVE blog.. In interviews in articles and in next weeks previews..
If i had caught you in multiple lies and listened to you lie to a room full of people..then Brandi came to me and said you were a liar.. Yea… I would probably believe her. Brandi may be a big mouth but she’s not a LIAR. Adriene has a track record of being a LIAR!
I dont know you.. so your question doesnt make much sense….But there ya go
She said, and then She said…Whatever, show the paper, which there is no record, then there has been no law suit. Simple as that. Both Gas in the Ass and Hoof have shown to lie. But in this case, unless you find me the record of a law suit, then there has been no law suits. Even if Hoof says there has been one. No public record, then it never happened….
say: “Adriene admits it in the ABOVE blog..”
Say, where does it say A. admits in the above blog that she sued B? Could u copy and paste it, plz? Better still, could u tell me what paragraph, so I can go and check? Geez, perhaps I am going blind, bc all I can see is that Hoof saying she never sued Gas in the Ass.
You are crazy!
And you are one nutty fanatic!
You can’t read very well, can you, Say whatever?
I read just fine…
You however, make NO sense in any of your posts. You just pop in and decide to attack me? FOR WHAT? I’ve never commented to you until you directly called me out in your comments that make zero sense. Its obvious what youre up to.. freak
Oh gosh, you sound just like Gas in the Ass, playing the victim. Actually I don’t attack until attack. I think you are so rude to most here, that you mix names and don’t see how you go off. Like “you are crazy”, to you is a lolly pop when you say it, but if someone else said it to you, you play Wooohaaa. Really, I think you are an old mental lady who really has nobody in real life, bc of your nastiness, so these MB are your real life.
Jennifer, you can change your name a million times… The language is still the same….and so is the know it all legal expert behavior. You promise on another thread to stop insulting people but in reality all you have done is made numerous other NAMES to do your insulting from.
Why dont you just STOP trying to brow beat everyone with your LEGAL BULLSHIT and things will be fine.
Srt/slowJoe/Sw, you can change your name a million times… The language is still the same….and so is the know it all legal expert behavior. You promise on another thread to stop insulting people but in reality all you have done is made numerous other NAMES to do your insulting from.
Why dont you just STOP trying to brow beat everyone with your LEGAL BULLSHIT and things will be fine. Now, shut your fat ho, and stop creating names to attack people.
Mary,
There is no lawsuit. The court records are public and it is easy to check LA county. So there is no litigation. On that Brandi lied or was misinformed. That is a fact. Even if the case was dismissed or withdrawn we would have a record in the court so there was no pending litigation. Adrienne statemetn is 100% true.
As for the letter from the attorney now I am confused. There is no way Brandi’s attorney would confuse it. If attorneys have been in correspondence.
I would like Brandi to send all correspondence to the media for republication. Then and only then after reading and seeing them will I change my opinion that Brandi is a liar.
Lets go back to last seasons threads and see what you had to say on Camilles lawsuit back then…
I was on Camille’s side. I actual flipped to both. I like Taylor back then too and I thought she was getting a raw deal.
Russell never denied the letter. Adrienne is deny it.
Seriously, if Gas, that’s my name for Brandi now, since she seems like gas in the ass, would just show the papers, then Hoof won’t be able to get out of this one. If not, then Gas, well is just…A gas in the ass!!
What??
Say What??
Are you a lawyer too?
No, but you are mental, aren’t you? Did they let you out early? LOL
Yes catfish, they let me out early….
Annie, did you take your Meds?
Hoof! I love it!
Hoof, you are back-pedaling! You should have shut Brandi down ASAP woman to woman instead of attacking her and getting lawyers involved. And pls stop mentioning your children. No sympathy here! You brought this all on yourself! Your ex-husband won’t even back you up anymore!
I am sorry, but I have sympathy. When kids are involved, that’s where I draw a line. That’s why I came to dislike B. And honestly, even though she has apologized, she must be a lousy mother to have used A’s kids to attack A. No good mother would to that to another mother.
I just read this from December. I copied /pasted. This makes sense for me anyway, as to the suing/not suing and Brandi forking out$$$.( came up when googling about the lawsuit from another HW site)
“Adrienne has filed a lawsuit against Brandi which was allegedly settled or dismissed and she also reportedly sued Bravo and RHOBH’s production company, which is why Bravo couldn’t air what Brandi really said.”
From December 2012
Adrienne is one bitter troll!
As soon as a lawsuit is filed, it becomes public record. It doesn’t matter is latter it is dismissed or settled, there is still a record of the lawsuit and a dock number.
Lexy,
That is true. It is even a public record even if it is withdrawn. We would see a little item that says withdrawn next to the docket number of the case filing.
RARELY does anything end up in court. Eeverything is handled before court and with mediators. That doesnt mean someone is not attempting to sue you.. and how else should she phrase it to apease all the Adriene fans?
I agree it is less than 5% ends but being litigated but more than 20% get to complaints.
You only have a lawsuit when you have a complaint. There isn’t one in the system. No lawsuit has ever been filed; therefore, there has been no lawsuit.
It is not semantics it is actual fact.
There is no attempt to sue unless you file a complaint. That is not true.
Which means they handled it through lawyers… What kind of Tom Foolery are you trying to pull here?
I am not trying to pull anything. But most people have a real action. Not an action dealing with defamation, invasion or privacy or intentional infliction of emotional distress.
They are mostly monetary disputes that get settle for mutually agreed upon amounts. This issue is different.
This is an issue that courts hate. They hate this issue. One because the first thing they hate is Brandi’s big mouth and the second is Adrienne wasting their time in court.
When people are idiots like Brandi and Adrienne this crap goes to court because neither one knows how to STFU. They are both self-righteous.
Tom Foolery is the most hilarious thing I’ve read today
I have to say, say whatever, you come off sounding really stupid. You try to come off intelligent, but it’s obvious, you don’t even have a high school diploma. That’s why you go around accusing everyone of being so and so or insulting them.
Having said that, you must have many usernames yourself, since you are always here along with your other usernames, um i mean minions, to agree with yourself!!! Otherwise, you really are not well to take any anti Gas in the Ass aka Brandi so personally. Get help! You need it.
You need to take your medication….
@melissa….
It’s extremely interesting that you come on this blog and start attacking another poster for no apparent reason. I don’t recall have ever seeing your name before.
WAIT!!!
Maybe I have……as Jennifer perhaps?? You are so obvious.
Grow up.
Oh poor dumb Old Annie I mean Say what. Coping me now. Now…now, take it easy and have the nurse to take you for a walk. Don’t worry, we’ll be here and so will your nasty tongue….
are u sure? it may not if children were involved.
No this would not be in family court where names names can be withheld. Only there and only rare occurrence will you not see a docket number.
I am 100% sure no lawsuit filed as of this time. Maybe later but not now.
Kinda guessed that she sued BRAVO as well. Remember Teresa went crazy when they were airing bullshit about her and contacted her own lawyrs. I assume she didnt want to lose her job and dropped the suit allowing them to cut up the phone conversation with Joe.
If she sued Bravo there would be a public record of that.
Michers,
Check the courts in LA county there is no history of any filing. If you have one link it because there is none.
Why don’t you guys just take a look for yourselves?
https://www.lasuperiorcourt.org/onlineservices/LAECourtOnlineIndex.htm
There is a small fee and you can find out.
I have better things to spend my money on.. Like Brandi juicy book!
LOL!
I am so glad. Since loser Eddie isn’t paying Gas in The Ass any child support, I really hope her book does well. I just hope she thinks of her kids first, and not blow all the money on herself, like getting another vagina.
Oh yea? Who is going to help you with the big words, Saywhatever?
You are Melissa/Jennifer…
Melissa, you are deranged.
Ok, and you are Slow Joe/Mental granny!
Slow Joe/Srt_3/Say, you are the one in the mental hospital, hone. Take it easy, and take your Med.
If you are going to try and insult ppl, Melissa, much better when you don’t spell something incorrectly, hone…..
Ok, Srt_3/Slow Joe/Saywhat, stop coming in with your multiple names. No matter what name you post, you still are one uneducated moron! As for as spelling, you are right, I do misspell often, then again, I have a life unlike you who doesn’t, spends his time on this board most the time, still mis spells, and sounds ignorant. Oh I forgot, you are Slow Joe!!!
This is like trying to reason with a 2 year old.
And you are certainly a certifiable mental idiot.
Michers, this woman is a nut!
She weeks ago is blogging about the weird legal stuff between her and Brandi, and explaining why this lawsuit isn’t the same as Russell’s situation, but now she is saying she has no idea what anyone is talking about and her lawyer has never ever sent anything to Brandi….um, wtf.
I know Ellen… ist just getting beyond ridiculous. And really, this has no entertainment value to me anymore after the first 2 episodes about it. Hoof did or threatened, or initialized some kind of legal action, she mentioned herself a few times even publicly, Brandi had stress and anxiety over it, no one would make that up. Sure, they may not be a lawsuit. Guess she threatened and that was enough- she did something legally to Brandi!
Agree Michers. Adrienne’s full of it. She should’ve just owned up to whatever she did and let it be done. I thought Brandi handled herself pretty well at the tea party. I think she was trying to keep it together for Lisa’s sake.
again we agree Michers
Thx friends, I try, LOL. Im not as articulate and hip to the Harvard comments lately, LOL, but Im just trying to keep it “real”…
@Michers
Nicely said !
Hoof is lying plain & simple. She always lies. I believe Brandi, she doesn’t lie. We will see the proof next week
Michers, it wouldn’t let me respond to you in the thread below because there are too many replies, but I absolutely agree that my opinion of Adrienne changed after I saw what she used Bernie to do to Paul during the divorce. So I totally believe Brandi’s allegations on Twitter regarding Bernie and leaking stories. I just don’t swallow this lawsuit stuff whole and I’d love to see this actual letter. I really didn’t like what Brandi pulled on Camille at the Vegas dinner. In short, I find them both at fault and am therefore Team Neither.
I see your points! Hoof just became too messy and shady and a liar for me. I understand what Brandi was doing with Camille as she thought Camille would without fear of Hoof, lay it all out- Brandi could not because of Hoof’s legalities, LOL. I saw things in Camille I did not like last 2 episodes. Did you see Bravo aired the tweets from Brandi to Adrienne? Bravo even called Hoof out, LOL
I do believe Adrienne sent something to Bravo from her lawyers and that she has few if any friends left on the Bravo staff after trying to quit! Her body language says it all.
You tell her michers! lol @ hoof!
I feel like Adrienne’s lawyer sent a cease and desist letter to Brandi. I think Adrienne is lying about that not happening. Could it be that Brandi’s lawyer is probably fighting Adrienne’s on that issue? I would guess that Brandi is refusing to have Adrienne silence and censor her and that’s probably where the legal fees are coming from. Can you fight against a cease and desist letter?
Maybe? Maybe that is why she forked out that amount of money? retainer fee, paperwork fee, and whatever they sent back to Hoof’s peeps Im sure was not cheap. Im not sure about fighting that letter, but Im sure someone will be here to answer that….
Haha, Michers! I wonder who that’ll be…
Michers, ugh, your last sentence. God help us all.
double UGH! But AC said they would find out exactly what happened at the reunion. Adriene not only went after Brandi, but she went after BRAVO.. No way is AC going to let her get away with that at the reunion. It will be ON LIKE DONKEY KONG!
HAHAHA.
LMAO!@ Michers, for real. Not signing it is like fighting it, no? Having to explain the point of the letter numerous times can get costly. Technically, it is not a lawsuit so Brandi may have overpaid to hear exactly that. Then again, lawyers take advantage and drag ass to collect fees.
I know.. I really think Brandi initially thought she was going to get sued, or it was coming.. Hence the Im getting sued! To fight for her rights as an American, she probably paid for it! ( as in, free speech, telling the truth, NOT signing Hoof’s list of demands) and I think Hoof, is saying “not true” because the demands provide cover for her to lie and say what she is, if that makes sense? Im guessing there was a threat, but since it was “taken care of” ( cough cough) there is no proof of citing lawsuit. Is that possible????
Klown,
If a lawyer took advantage to that degree it is malpractice and Brandi she thinking about how she is being represented.
No good attorney charges you every second you are on. If he did, then he is a horrible attorney and will never have many clients.
There was work done here. No one pays $20K for no work or just a reponse letter, phone call and meeting.
Well all Brandi needs to do is show the letter from Adrienne’s attorney. It’s as simple as that. However, I have a feeling this letter may not get any camera time.
Do you think Brandi would be as blunt as to lie on camera about the lawsuit? What about the lawyer fees? Do you think she paid that much money or is grossly exaggerating?
I’m going to say she’s grossly exaggerating until I see an actual letter. Really, who pays 10-20k in lawyer’s fees over a C&D letter? I hope she’s lying because that would make her one of the dumbest people EVER and I would lose the last sliver of respect I have for Brandi.
I just don’t understand why Adrienne would vehemently stand by her story of not suing Brandi if there is an actual letter out there in Brandi’s possession to show her to be a liar and blow her story out of the water.
Interesting thing i found while working on my Google law degree..
It appears that P-Diddy.. Sean Combs recieved a C&D and ignored it. Guess what happened? See below!
Ignore the letter at your peril
You’ve got options here. You can do what the sender wants, you can contact them to discuss possible solutions, you can send a letter back telling them to get lost, or you can ignore them. Ignoring them really isn’t your best option, unless you’re very sure you’re within your rights.
To illustrate how ignoring such letters can backfire, here’s a little story. In 2006 Sean “Diddy” Combs’ Bad Boy Entertainment LLC and Universal Records lost a copyright infringement case brought by Bridegport Music. (The case involved a 6-second sample, but that’s not why I’m telling you this.)
The jury awarded $3.5 million in punitive damages, $1 million of which was against Bad Boy LLC. Why such a large amount? Because, as reported by Billboard Magazine (April 8, 2006), Bad Boy never responded to Bridgeport’s cease and desist letters. Let that be a lesson to you: don’t ignore a cease and desist letter. If you do, you’ll probably look like a “bad boy” to the judge or the jury. That can cost you.
Say- I thought this was going to be about JLO and her secrets. That chick hits everyone with a C&D and her divorce settlements come with huge clauses.
Remember Chris Judd? Well, he cost her $17m to divorce but with that came the a huge clause. That if he spoke about their intimacy, marriage, her cheatings he would have to return a huge chunk back.
Remember that Marc Anthony was married to Miss Universe and he cheated on her with JLO? He divorced her in the Dominican Rep. in 1hr and married JLO the next day. Before the divorce Dayanaya was hit with a C&D letter from JLO’s camp. If she ditched all the details about JLO calling her house at 3am, cheating on Ben with Marc and even Puffy, she was going to get sued. Dayanara even wrote a book about divorce and betrayal and not one word of the affair was mentioned.
JLO’s first husband- Cuban dude has been trying to release a “home movie”… is it out?! NOT!
JLO has manipulated a lot of people in the industry so her secrets of being Santera and workshipping it, to her son having a disability, her unfaithfulness, etc. HAve we heard anything about her divorce with Marc? We wont. She did cheat though.
*runs before getting a C&D*
Say What, LMAO. How’s that law degree going?
By the way, just ask Mo Umansky’s legal advice, he knows everything. Aaaaaamazing.
Thought……I wonder why Kyle doesn’t call herself Kyle Umansky, or Mrs. Mo Umansky.
Just sayin’ as some posters have asked why Yolanda uses Hadid instead of Foster.
Klown that is so interesting! How can someone put a gag on an ex wife? It seems like if that were possible Leann would have put one on Brandi. Or Maybe JLo paid the ex to keep quiet?
Shipp haha my degree is coming along. Long hours of googling pays off!
I think Kyle kept her own last name because of the recognition thats non exisitant now. She kept it to continue riding Kims coat tails of fame!
Say- I have wondered the same? But remember, LR doesn’t have EMPIRE JLO EVERYTHING. She needs the spotlight for what is worth. JLO is one of the most powerful celebs in the world and controls her image at all costs.
So yes, it was possible to shut Dayanara the hell up, especially in the divorce settlement. She got a hefty $50m, an island, one of the private jets and numerous properties. I remember watching “Cristina” the latin oprah and hearing something like she would be fined $50 or $500k if she spoke about the affair.
JLO is morally/emotionally bankrupt if you really think about it. she only looks good.
That is a copyright infringement case in no way is that relatable. They could have settle anytime during the litigation. Piddy decided not to do it or was advised against settling. You can in no way make a rational relationship between the two events, that is non sequitur reasoning.
He ignored the C&D who knows what was in Adrienes letters? We cant prtend to know..
Say, are you really a law student? I don’t mean to be offensive, but if yes, I would be very pleasantly surprised. Perhaps, you don’t want to assert your knowledge of law on a message board? In that case, maybe that’s why I missed it.
Ok Jennifer….
Ok Ship.
Now, get that help. You need it! Make sure you take your med.
Okay, I for the life me don’t understand why anybody would want to deal with saywhat…She can’t even read properly, let alone understand logic. She thinks she sounds real cute or smart going around accusing anybody of being a lawyer (that’s bc she doesn’t understand some common law), or accuse you of being other posters (that’s due to the fact that she has many different usernames, herself). I have feeling she is a he too.
Take your meds. saywhat. lol
Well, you just proved you’re a catfish… an obsessive one at that.
Ok, Slow Joe/Say, I am whatever you see me being. Now, take your Meds…. You are a danger to yourself.
Really,Brandi paid $20,000 for a C & D letter??? She should have gone to the Judge Law Firm – How much do ya think Tamra paid for the one she threw at Jeana??
JaiJai, I wonder if Hoof can block that? Block Brandi proving her wrong? Money talks and she has enough to do that! If she sent Bravo a letter as well to not air it, sent Brandi a letter, which I really believe she did , I wonder if she can prevent Brandi from disproving her again. I think there was a threat to sue if Brandi spoke further, or put more truths out but ultimately the “letter” was the intimidation factor. I doubt this is a lie- I just do not see anyone going to these lengths on camera building up such an issue, if there were never a threat of it or a letter. Brandi could be easily disproved if that were the case. Last episode, Bravo aired a clip of tweets between Brandi and Hoof that backed up Brandi with the Bernie situation, and we all watched as Hoof LIED again on camera.
I don’t think so. Brandi has talked repeated about being sued by Adrienne so I don’t see why she would be blocked from showing the legal document showing that she is being sued when that is public record whens someone brings a lawsuit against someone else. Camille backed Adrienne on Twitter saying that the C&D letter was not sent to Brandi but Brandi’s friend and I don’t know if Brandi’s name was mentioned in the letter, but Brandi is now taking this to mean that she is being sued. So until I see the actual letter I think Brandi is blowing this out of proportion.
Why would a letter be sent to Brandi’s friend, LOL? Brandi is the one who opened ” secret-gate”!
She can be by the law firm is there is one either hers or Adrienne’s. All correspondence usually has a disclaimer that it is copyright protected for no redistribution or publication. That usually requires a waiver by the law firm.
Also, a lawyer will say they never want it republished because it can hurt you in the long run.
If thats the case why are you demanding to see proof of the letters when you know they arent going to allow it? Semantics again!
Because that is the only way. She can try for the written waiver by the firm. They can give it and redact certain things.
But, we all write that know on all correspondence. Also we write our circular 230 by law as well since 2006.
She primarily needs to give the waiver, but they will advise against it.
Geez freaking Louise. Enough already. Nobody saw the letter Camille got and it wasn’t a big deal. I don’t need to see proof, proof, proof. I believe Brandi.
Saywhat, are you really that stupid. LAW SUITS WHEN FILED, ARE PUBLIC RECORD. Wow, you are really dumb, aren’t you??
Ok, Brandi may not be a rocket scientist, but I find it hard to believe that her, and several of her BFFs, who have now spoken up on Twitter that they saw the letter, plus a lawyer…all mistook a C & D to A DIFFERENT PERSON / NOT BRANDI as meaning Brandi was getting sued. This is getting pretty far-fetched at this point, ladies.
Ok, then why is there no record of a filed complaint against Brandi in regards to Maloof or Nassif.
Feel it is likely a C&D or some sort of letter was sent. But, nothing anyone can find and the link for the LA county court is in this thread has it.
They all look like bubble heads, so they might mistake a C&D as a lawsuit.
Opps you mean to Geneva. That I don’t have an answer to.
Do you think Hoof had her people send a fake threat? Meaning , they threatened her with out being documented for proof? God I hope Brandi really has those documents, LOL
Adrienne has no control over the judicial system and a lawsuit is matter of public record, even if Brandi couldn’t have send it to the press herself, she sure could have asked Lisa to call her reporter friend and give her a copy of the lawsuit or C&D letter and have it posted online.
For God’s sake we have seen lawsuit after lawsuit from these HW posted everywhere, bankrupcy files, lawsuits for fraud, nothing is hidden forever in the land of Bravo HW kingdom, yet nobody can find the lawsuit from Adrienne to Brandi or the C&D letter?
Adrienne must be mighty powerful is she can cover her tracks that well, even more powerful that congressman or billionaires whose lawsuits are made public every single day in this country.
Thank you. It is amazing what people imagine when they dislike someone as much as most of us dislike Adrienne.
Where was AM when Bill Clinton needed her magic dust to make Lewinski issue poof be gone?!
I think Queen Cohen is the one to really be fooling us.
Queen said the other night on WWHL that the proof would be shown at the reunion coming up in 6 weeks. Since A also went after BRAVO (and obviousl won since the reveal was edited) I think he is going to make sure the truth comes out about who is sueing who. Cant wait to see.
That goes both ways. We have Adriene on the cover of mags and quoted as saying “why im sueing Brandi”.. yet people still feed into her lies.
If that mag was lying im SURE Adriene would sue them as well!
No Im not imagining. My opinions are based on Adrienne’s lies and her vile chef. Too many lies/stories, etc.. and what really did her in for me, was what she allowed her chef to do to Paul.
Thank you Lexy!!! If Bill Gates cannot control the legal system then certainly Adrienne Maloof cannot control it.
But, your rational statements fall on deaf ears.
Pot meet kettle!
Say what???
I have yet to read anything rational from you. LOL!
DITTO in the Brandi-Adriene situation!
All I know in Brandi Adrienne is I want to know more facts because what she has said so far does not make sense on Brandi’s part. Adrienne really hasn’t said anything and I find Adrienne to be a bubble head to begin with.
Jennifer says:
February 13, 2013 at 4:44 pm
“Say what???
I have yet to read anything rational from you. LOL!”
Oh come on, even you by now should be able to tell, s/he isn’t quite right up there! Now, just wait for her to accuse me of being you!! I really think s/he is mentally challenged.
It’s obvious legal was involved or they wouldn’t have censored things. Some people on here – their Brandi hatred is like a weird virus that infects their brains and causes them to create many nonsensical reasonings. That’s my theory anyhow.
Exactly! Bravo was on lockdown because of Adrienne and Brandi was legally screwed because of Adrienne. Someone DID some kind of legal action! And I said above, Bravo was real quick to air the tweets between A and B regarding the Bernie crap that A sat there, in front of everyone, and LIED about again. ON camera.
Brandi is the one who has insisted that she is being sued so she needs to present evidence of that, ills, the lawsuit, etc.
If all she received was a C&D letter then show it too, Camille read the email Russell sent her on air so this case is even easier. Post the papers Bra di, you are the true cannon so I am not sure why she hasn’t done it yet.
Tamara from OC went even as far as to slap the C&D letter to Jeanna’s face in a party while filming and Tamra doesn’t have any money to her name.
Let’s not forget that all these events are unfolding during filming season, the cameras are there all the time, even if they couldn’t capture the exact time when Brandi was served with the lawsuit or the C&D letter, they could have shown Brandi opening the letter, showing the letter to her friend Jennifer or Lisa, reading the letter or lawsuit on air.
Yet we have seen none of that, all we have is Brandi’s word that she is being sued, so forgive me for being skeptical.
Camille had lawers involved when Russle went after her. Why is that different for Brandi? Only a FOOL would recieve a C&D like this and not obtain a lawyer. Had she ignord it, it WOULD have been a lawsuit. Adriene is just playing semantics here!
Camille obviously was following her lawyer’s advice when she refused to be close to Russel and taylor and she also followed their advice about not speaking about the abuse again, so whatever mo ney she paid was well invested, i doubt it was 20K though.
Brandi, on the other hand, has said that she has spent 20K on lawyer fees, well any recent graduate lawyer would have let her know that the best she can do it zip it, so obviously Brandiu is not following her lawyer’s advice if she ever had one, which is BTW very easy to prove, present the papers and the reply to it and we will get the see the name of hte lawyer that is charging her that much.
Lexy,
There could be something else. I do not believe her lawyers to be unscrupulous as to take $20K from a client without any real work. But, that is why I would like an itemized bill. It would detail exactly what the attorney worked on and for how many hours.
Brandi said 10K , Yolo said 20..
I didn’t know Camille read the email on air. Oooh! That is interesting. I forgot that completely!
Mary I totally agree. No lawsuit that we know without any doubt because there is no public record of it. So, Brandi has one strike against her.
I would like to see the C&D, if one exists. I would like it republished. I don’t want Brandi who cannot paraphrase to save her life say anything. She should scan all correspondence and itemized legal fees and then I might believe her.
You just said you know for a fact that no lawyer will allow them to show the C&D so why say demand to see it? TOM FOOLERY AGAIN!
Yes I did. Without a doubt that language needs to be in there against republication. I would never not have it in. It is actually a requirement at all the largest firms. But, the firm can allow it waiver from client and firm waiver. It can happen. I think is about a 2% chance because no good lawyer would advise for it. You open yourself up to malpractice. But that is the only way I would believe Brandi.
Not Tom Foolery but what I would require in order to believe her.
Then keep saying you want to see the C&D?? You know they wont allow it. It will show Adriene for the Liar she is. Why would Adriene go on National TV and LIE then allow her lawyer to release papers that prove she was lying?
This is deffinetly TOM FOOLERY!
I don’t believe we will see it. They will hold up papers, but I doubt it. I would advise Brandi against it. But Brandi is a lose cannon. She wants people to believe her. She could send the waiver and have a waiver if they state no republication.
Never Tom foolery dear only the facts of the issue.
I don’t know Adriennen to be a liar. No one knows without proof. Did you become GOD in the last 24 hours? LOL!
Jennifer! Read the above blog written by Adriene where she admits that she is sueing!
Adrienne is the biggest bubble head of that group. Please Adrienne wouldn’t know difference between a C&D and a verdict in a murder case.
The letter Camille received was from Russell ONLY, it was not from lawyers. Camille then involved her lawyers by turning the letter over to them. That is the difference in Brandi being allowed to show a copy of the C&D. It was sent by Addie’s lawyers to Brandi’s lawyers and changes the dynamics of the legal system.
Probably a little more focused right now on all of the interviews and book signing being done in NYC right now, and since before this episode aired, I think.
BTW does anybody know who Brandi lawyers are? They sure charge a fortune, in about two weeks this lady went from spending 2k to 20k, you would think they are working on a murder case.
Im thinking that depending on what Hoof was threatening, her countering would pile up her fees.
Hoof is trying to intimidate Brandi. I can’t say how, but that’s the truth.
I think so too Shipp. I also believe Brandi when she says that their trouble started when she wouldn’t join Adrienne going after Lisa. It was stupid but Adrienne was jealous of Lisa.
So don’t you think that it would be in the best interest of Brandi to show proof of all that?
I am waiting for the reunion, Brandi better come prepare, she better have the lawsuit and the receipts for her legal bills, also the contersuits that surely had followed, that is the only thing that would make me believe that Brandi spent 20K in lawyer’s fees as she was saying at this time.
If all she received was a C&D letter, there is no way that I would ever believe a lawyer charge her that much to make her understand what a C&D letter is. That would have taken the lawyer an hour, two hours top for somebody as stubborn as Brandi, so if there is a lawyer out there in BH who charges 10K as hourly fee, I would like to know who this lawyer is.
Obviously more is involved and Adriene continued going after her. Brandi said there were “numerous” letters. I dont think the amount of money Brandi caims to have spent is unreasonable.
I know someone fighting for joint custody of his children and he’s spent 10k on his lawyer with 2 mediation dates and one court date in a matter of 5 months. Going forward if its taken to trial he will need an additional 6-8 thousand dollars!
custody battles are draining and long, there are depositions and court dates where the lawyer must show up in court.
Here, there is no prooof of any lawsuit and if all there is is a C&D letter that doesn’t warrant that much expense. Brandi miscalculated by grossly overinflating the cost of her legal advice and now she is going to look like a fool.
If the C&D letter was not even directed at her, then she is going to look like a huge liar on top of that.
Lexi there has been no depostions yet. It’s all been mediaton between the two with lawyers and a mediator. No idea if that changes things? But I know its insanely expensive and not much has been done yet.
Its stuck with me because I cant imagine what happens when one person doesnt have the money to fight even though they are the better parent and the children are at risk with the other parent. In the end it doesnt matter whos right or wrong.. or whats in the best interest of the children. Its based on rather you can afford to battle it out with lawyers.
My sisi Kim K is down $500k and nothing yet. Just saying…
lol klown! Imagine if Kids were involved and one parent had more money then the other? UGH
In-person are always more expensive. Custody battle do require actual work and memos even during mediation.
She said $20K now with only a response letter and meeting. Why was there numerous responses that is ridiculous. You open yourself up to an actual suit with that much correspondence if it is a C&D where the defense is truth. Fishy.
That she is Lisa said $20K twice to Brandi.
Mediation is far less expensive than going through the court. But mediation or any ADR is essentially as if you filed in court. Initiation of an ADR alternative dispute resolution such as mediation is as if you were for file but not with same rigor.
Maybe their were numerous C&D?? How do we know all these letters were the exact same crap? We dont know anything. The only thing up for debate is if Adriene sent her lawyers after Brandi.
Brandi haters are the only ones nit picking on rather she SUED or not.. and how much her legal fees were.
No can’t be numerous C&Ds doesn’t not follow. Never happens. That is actually harassment at that point. Nope. Can’t do it. You send the response. They talk after that. They send everything to counsel. Only form letters go back. More than that opens your client to higher possibility of suit.
Klown,
Your sister is down $500K of legal fees that she paid and no results? This is not a contingency case where there is no out of pocket. Not a corp case where it is corp paying. If this is a civil case on a defamation, slander, libel, invasion of privacy or, emotional distress case or similar with out of pocket of $500k your sister she question the fees and reflect on whether or not the firm is the right one.
OMG IT WAS A JOKE!
Jennifer.. this is not a legal blog. This is supposed to be fun. Youre ruining it for everyone with this stupid shit.
Saywhat, someone needs to slap you around! Gosh, you seem to get so uptight! You mentally challenged creature, it is supposed to be fun, but you are the one going around insulting left and right!!
Now, take it easy! Gas in the Ass isn’t worth your nervous break down. Well, she is actually! I kindda enjoy you making a fool of yourself and I poking fun at you!!! LOL
Jesus, Melissa…….grow the F up!! You think SW sounds like a fool?? Umm, Bo…that would be you. You are personally attacking a fellow poster. Just. Stop. Again, it is blatantly obvious who exactly you are.
OMG Srt_3/Slow Joe/SayW, you are hallucinating again. You need to take your med., and stop going around insulting posters. Seriously, are you this lonely that you have so many usernames to trash this forum!!! Gosh, you are dumb as a rock, and nasty as…JaqAss from NJ.
Not on a C&D if there was no existing impediment to that speech.
If Brandi breached a contractual provision; such as, no one will speak about the Maloof surrogacy on the show then you get into murky water.
But mediation or any ADR is essentially as if you filed in court. Initiation of an ADR alternative dispute resolution such as mediation is as if you were for file but not with same rigor.
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Jennifer, did you make the above statement? ^
So basicly, you’ve just said that mediation is exactly like you’ve gone to court…. Which is the exact same thing as saying youre being sued.
TOM FOOLERY HARD AT WORK! Youre arguing its not Semantics then youre admiting that it is Semantics.
ADRs are alternative dispute resolution. Instead of going to court you use an alternative method. It is like going to court. The decree can later be affirmed by the court. That is why ADRs exist. Not to spend the money of an actual trial.
It is ver very similar. Not same rigor or cost. I know ADR. You have to license to do ADRs.
You don’t seem to understand what an ADR is or why they exist. I do.
I think you need to understand what semantics means. Defined the meaning and interpretation of a word.
A lawsuit is legal action in the court. That can only start with a complaint being filed.
There is no semantics between a lawsuit and a legal letter. The consequences are not the same the words cannot be interpreted as meaning the same thing.
YOU JUST ADMITTED ITS THE SAME AS BEING SUED AND WORKING IT OUT!
You are proving my point. Thanks
No dear. An ADR is similar to going to court because the decree can be enforced by the court. Not so with a C&D. It is completely different.
ADRs were created by the court system to be a cleaner way to handle disputes and the final decree can be enforced and filed in the court. That cannot happen with a C&D.
Sorry you are wrong.
How do you know thats not whats going on here? You are assuming things that fit into your own imagination on what YOU think has happened. REALLY DUMB!
Say What??
You said the analogy was similar and I said it wasn’t. ADR is use of the legal system through a different conduit. That is the purpose. Quicker, cheaper and less contentious. But you want to use the court to enforce the decree and you want have decree filed. C&D you can’t do it that way. It is not ADR. You cannot enforce any outcome the way you can with ADR only way is contractually.
You mean they had an ADR for their dispute. It is possible to do through mediation. It is highly unusual for a tort case unless it was insurance or credit card payments where you agree to arbitration and or mediation or brokerage issues or like. It is possible but unlikely.
Mary,
I agree it went up from 2K-20K very quickly. It seem pretty ridiculous to me and I have done this many times.
Murder case no. LOL! That you need at least a $15K-20K retainer minimum. I do love the joke!
But, on a simple C&D, reponse letter, plus call, and meeting no more than $5K.
There seems to be something else here. I think a positioning paper was written like a Memorandum of Law. That can be expensive. usually between 10-20K.
Uh, did’t Camille confim that there was a C&D?
Camille has mentioned that there is a C&D letter but is not against Brandi but one of her friends, I think her name is Geneva or something like that.
So how does a letter to one of her friends translates to a 20K lawyer fees for Brandi.
The more I learn about this, the more the feeling grows inside of me that Brandi actually wanted to manipulate the public perception of her mishaps, the poor single mother who had to pay so much in lawyer fees while struggling to make ends meet, the poor lady who needs all the empathy in the world and make money from her book sales to be able to afford her kids a nice little house.
I would hate to think that Brandi has played some viewers’ feelings like a fiddle to boast up her book sales, because after all who doesn’t want to help a poor single mother with so much debt in lawyer fees?
I have to say that if is proven that Brandi completely misrepresented her case, I would be disgusted.
Lexy,
I didn’t know that. Who is Geneva? Who is she friends with?
I totally believe Brandi is trying to manipulate public perception. I think she has.
That is why I can a scan of all correspondence and a fully itemized legal bill with the case number and full explanation of what the attorney worked on. She can get this. They have to do it if she requests an itemized bill.
Why I want…
But, you are not disgusted that it has already been a proven fact that Addie lied and embellished that lie. When she sat at the party and said she had a C-section, how Paul acted during the procedures, etc., it was a bald-faced LIE, a fairy tale she dreamed up. She has since had to admit that she did use a surrogate therefore admitting that she fabricated a huge lie on the viewing public. When Addie and Paul attacked Brandi screaming that she was lying they both knew full well that Brandi was telling the truth and they were the outright liars. Addie has continued to lie again and again and NO ONE has caught Brandi in a lie.
Well on her children was conceived and carried, so it could be that one. As for the surrogacy, I personally believe it is a private matter. Everyone here is up in arms about LR and not this is very hypocritical IMO.
One of her children..
Hoof is starting to look way too much like that cat lady. What’s her face (pun intended)? The one that had all the plastic surgery.
I like Mama Elsa (Miami) but I see the Hoof heading down that road. Too much.
hahahaha! Move over Marysol and meet your new sister…hahahahahha!
Lucky for her, she doesn’t have the surgeon at home anymore. GOOD LORD! Mama Elsa is disgusting looking and Adrienne sure is starting to look like a younger version.
I know who you mean Shipp, Jocelyn Wildenstein, and I was thinking the absolute same thing! It’s too much…
OOOH the Tea party she looked bad. Her hairline with the heavy make up made it appear she was wearing a mask!
Front lace wig probably. They have to blend the front to your forehead. Her extensions must be done by the same fool that does Britney Spears.
I really suck at recognizing wigs and extentions. I think the only obvious ones ive recognized were Britney Spears, Gretchen from OC and Kim from Atlanta. haha
Skanky Tamra and Alexis from OC had extentions also. Tamra’s were the worst.
I found this on Starcasm regarding Adrienne:
“According to E! News sources, Taylor is on her way out and producers are in talks with a few other possible wives including Rod Stewart’s wife Penny Lancaster. Ironically, Penny already has ties to the cast. Very odd ties. She is the 41-year-old step mother of 31-year-old Adrienne Maloof’s boyfriend, Sean Stewart. How priceless would the scene where Sean introduces Adrienne to his step-mom be? Can you even begin to imagine what Brandi Glanville would have to say about that?!?”
This could explain why Adrienne is “dating” Rod Stewart’s son. Could be this is her desperate attempt to have a story line to stay on the show next season? If Sean Stewart’s step mother is coming on as a housewife, this could be Adrienne’s attempt to stay relevant.
Yes I saw that too! They are looking for new blood. I would like to see Taylor pull herself up by the bootstraps and get a job and build an empire for her daughter like Drita on Mob Wives is doing. Taylor can’t rely on reality tv for a living.
Remember the rumors last years that Bruce Willis new wife was joining the cast? Her and Brandi are long time friends. I would love to see her join the show!
Is this the chick that sleep with him in Demi’s doll collection room? Who he marry?
I dont know about the doll collection stuff. WOW wouldnt that be creepy? Having all those wicked dolls LOOKING at you? lol
This chick was not a cheater if thats what you mean. She’s the one that recently had a baby and they all got along really well. Ashton & Demi would go on holiday with them.
Im stuck on “sex in the doll house” now.. What kind of TOM FOOLERY is that? So creepy!
I remember this being one of the scandals from their separation…
I think that was the nanny that he tooolk to the doll room.
*took. (sorry hard to type on my phone with claws) FML
Thats so creepy because I remember when he bought that house and the only thing in it are dolls. Freaks lol
Did anyone else notice how uncomfortable Adrienne’s body language was when the cameras showed up to film her going to Lisa ‘s? The rule is you never look at the camera, but she did at least once. Then kept her eyes downcast. I do believe she tried to quit the show, and was resentful as he!! that she had to finish out the season.
Lucinda, good point. I noticed that but just thought the Hoof had the stick up her butt, as usual.
I think she tried to have Brandi fired. Making them chose her or Brandi and BRAVO held her to the contract. Bet they would have let her out of the contract if she had not went after them with a lawsuit!
OR could be the contrary, she probably asked to be off the hook with the contract or countersuit them for their indiscretion.
I guess we’ll have to wait and see if she is coming back or not!
adrienne is a liar
Yeah and here is the proof. I don’t know if anyone else has posted this but Adrienne’s Bravo Blog from 1/23 titled “I’m Not the Biggest Fan of Drama” states that
“I still believe that friends don’t sue friends but Brandi has made it abundantly clear that she is not my friend.”
The blog is about why her situation is different from the White Party mess last year. She is a grande liar. Pathetic.
Good memory Portland.
Let me say this……all of this was filmed about 6 months or more ago. Adrienne has since come out & said she was suing Brandi. Her words were “Let me explain why I’m suing Brandi”.
Maloof-hoof is a liar who hides behind her money. Maybe she do something good with that 100 million dollars she’s worth. Not that that would make her a better person but its worth a shot.
Strange is that they are not allowed to speak about future episodes before they air.
I think all of this is bogus and it is to build momentum, book sales, business promos,etc.
How can you say Yolanda hasn’t spoken bad about her? She does all the time. Adrienne is right, she does not know her and only knows one side.
And I am still trying to figure out, when did Brandi become Mother Teresa? Everyone is praising her like she is an angel and it is ok to have a foul mouth, say whatever comes to mind. They are all crazy and they all lie.
I don’t know either. I know that we all have our ‘Favorites’ but what is fair is fair. We are all taking Brandi’s WORD for it, yet she hasn’t shown any actual proof. When the least favorite wives do or say something they are guilty till proven guilty (according to Kordell(SP)& Portia’s bill of rights). We call them liars and fakes and they must show us proof. Let’s wait to see the proof because right now there is no evidence on any legal action. Just Brandi saying she is being hit with a lawsuit that is not in the court system. SMDH.
Marehoop,
You are correct. Yo Yo has chosen her side and it is definitely Lisa and Brandi.
I just checked Amazon.com and Brandi’s book is selling well and getting excellent reviews.
I bought the Kindle version.. not gonna lie. Havent read it yet.
I was a Leann fan years and years ago. I followed her career when she first started. I also followed the divirce and watched Leann turn into a stalker and tabloid freak so it’s going to be interesting to hear the details from Brandi.
once you start reading it you won’t want to put it down…it is juicy. I’m on the 5th chapter already.
I’m disturbed at how Eddie made sure she got a shitty lawyer.. truely disturbing!
How can one make sure you get anyone sort of lawyer when you are on the other side? That sounds specious. Well it is from Brandi so everything she says sounds specious.
After a month of ranting all over this forum about being an expert on everything including every field of law you dont know how to ensure your ex gets a shitty lawyer? hahahaha!
Its EASY! You go to every good lawyer in town and consult with them.. that makes it ILLEGAL for them to represent the other party…. want to argue about this too? I DO HAVE PROOF! LOL
No that is impossible. You cannot make it so someone gets improper legal representation. If you are talking about money and accounts well that always happens. She should have had a few accounts in her name and borrowed the money from her family.
The legal rep business is BS on Brandi’s part. She was unsuccessful in the divorce because they had very few assets. Believe it or not adultery is not a huge give me to the judge when dividing martial assets.
And I have been whining for the better part of a year and half as being a legal expert.
I want proof more than Brandi’s lies in the book.
I said nothing about accounts. Im not looking up legal advice for you. It’s the truth. period. Dont believe me? Look it up. This is an old trick and people have been doing it for YEARS. Youre supposed to be a legal expert how can you NOT know this trick?
I hope it makes the #1, I really hope she makes a lot of money out of it. I don’t like her any more, but she did go through hell.
Hey Maloof Hoof……you’re a little fat shoe
/\ /\ /\ hints the name!
Surely the fact that Adrienne herself said right on the show, “This means a lawsuit” and that she told Kyle she was going to sue Brandi must weigh into the consideration of who is telling the truth.
Brandi has no reason to make this up, but Adrienne has reason to lie. Besides, we have all seen Adrienne lie before to all of us back when she and her family were extorting the people of Sacramento for subsidies for their sports team. She was saying they would be forced to leave Sacramento, that was a lie. They were threatening to leave Sacramento in order to convince the city to subsidize their wealth with the hard-earned dollars of people who actually work for a living. She lied to her friends and all the viewers when she claimed they were being “forced” to leave.
She lied to the women and to us when she claimed to have two caesareans.
She’s a liar. She lies with ease because she lies so often.
We know she lied about her husband abusing the kids. She was caught out because there was a witness who contradicted her lies.
There are far too many examples of her lying for her to have any credibility over Brandi. The criticism of Brandi is not that she lies, but that she tells the truth when she should probably keep her mouth shut.
Well there is no lawsuit in the public records. There is no lawsuit.
An attorneys letter is not a lawsuit.
So Jennifer, to clarify, there is or isn’t a lawsuit?
LOL Thanks for that comment!
It’s kinda crazy, isn’t it?
Ellen, shit is getting crazy around here. I am too distracted to even voice my original opinions. OK, just had to vent! Thanks for listening
Vent away Michers. It is ridiculous. And sooooo repetitive. Geez.
UGH.
I think that AM is parsing her words and taking the viewers for granted — as if we’re idiots to not see that she had her staff of minion lawyers PREPARE a lawsuit accompanied by a C&D letter and either sent it to Brandi’s camp OR she threatened someone else but mentioned Brandi in this suit.
Regardless of the details, she’s a liar.
I think Adrianne believes if she says “shame on you” enough times it’s true…what the hell happen to this woman I really liked her the first season but she is all kinds of bitter now…
I agree. We all watched Bernie go after Lisa and put out garbage lies and stories about her.. Then he went after Brandi doing the exact same thing.. And then… Paul, his own employer. It’s so obvious that Adriene is begind it. Hope Paul takes his ass to the cleaners..
Speaking of which, all the people claiming Brandi is lieing and there is no suit filed. Has anyone chcked to see if there is a suit filed against Bernie yet? Or are we going to call Paul a liar too?
I cant check myself as I havent gotten that far in my Google Law degree
LOL LOL LOL LOL
Hope class is going well this week LOL
Say What ,
Thanks, you made me laugh out loud! Enjoyed the comment.
If i were brandii would do a danielle tape all conversations with adriane and her attorneys from here on out. Brandi needs to keep a small recorder in her purse at all times.
Now THAT is not the smartest thing to do. I would think that recording someone without their knowledge is not exactly legal.
Danielle is yet to release those emails and calls…
She is so full of sh!t.
This was my favorite episode ….eventhough it did get heated…all women remained women.
I am so proud of Adrienne, she handled herself with grace and respect and stated it more than once that there is NO lawsuit. She also stated clearly..there is NO letter..calmly….still mystifies me that she didn’t admit to looking on her chef’s facebook acount -this I am sure she did…would be a normal reaction..If Lisa did not fire the waitress who was in a relationship with Eddie…why would Adrienne fire the chef…remember all humans have the right to freedom of speech…didn’t we just get a whole season of that from someone who crowed about it all season?
I am very proud of the fact that all the women kept out of Adrienne’s converstion. And Lisa handled the ending of her Tea Party efficiently..stop…leave..now…not happening here. So again..Lisa’s mind works and mouth…she lied about Faye ..she should have just said …was told she was invited…don’t lie again Lisa.
Yolanda fits right in with her brand new second face..she can stop praising herself at being so mature emotionally …..she just entered the pit of fighting…Bravo mus be so proud.
You have very valid points.
Your private chef slandering your friends in the media, currently, versus finding out that a waitress of yours, before you knew her and not while under your employ, once slept with a woman’s husband before you ever knew the woman…Hmmm, yeah. Totes same thing!
Samael,
love it!!! Nicely said.
IDK who to believe. I look forward to the reunion, but we probably will get no answers there either (i.e. the “Stripper-gate” issue at the Jersey reunion.)
I have to agree!
The anonymity of the internet allows for a degree of careless thinking and exaggerated conclusions that people would avoid in real life where they are held accountable when they are wrong and cannot just change their login name or make up a new identity on a forum.
This discussion about the cease and desist letter contra being sued and what Brandi’s legal fees may or may not be is a case in point. We are all speculating but some are speaking as though they have all the facts in hand. They generalize from their experience to all experience, assuming what happens to them is universal.
We have heard from our share of internet lawyers today that when they get a cease and desist they a) throw it in the trash, b) know it is no big deal and c) know it costs nothing to deal with. Clearly, they are operating on certain assumptions that may not be universal.
First, let’s deal with the incredibly bad advice of throwing such a letter in the trash and ignoring it. Sean P. Diddy Combs and Bad Boy Entertainment lost a copyright suit with 3.5 million in damages including an extra $1 million in punitive damages for not responding to the C&D letter. So, if some internet legal “expert” recommends the circular file, ignore that bad advice. Frankly, it is one of the most irresponsible things I have ever seen from the many internet lawyers we are blessed with.
Second, the overwhelming majority of our internet lawyers say a cease and desist is cheap and easy to deal with. That may be true if you let it intimidate you into complying with its demands, but what if doing so would make you implode as Brandi said would happen if she had to comply? Fighting a cease and desist is not the same as complying and it involves costs including negotiating an agreement to cease this, but maybe not that or completely refusing to be intimidated.
The thing is, we don’t know the facts. We don’t know if Brandi fought the cease and desist or complied. We don’t know if the lawyers had to review her book or her Bravo contract to see how the demands affected those projects. We don’t know if Brandi had to work with her lawyer to renegotiate some of her Bravo contract to comply. There’s too much we don’t know and for that reason, the flat out insistence by our internet lawyers that they absolutely know for sure is silly.
They also keep saying there cannot be a lawsuit because it was never filed. Well, that’s so silly and clearly intentionally misleading. Lawyers have drawn up lawsuits and showed them to the person they may sue and said, we’re going to sue you, and then succeeded in intimidating the target into folding. Sure, technically they didn’t sue, but they sure as hell used a lawsuit for intimidation. These internet lawyers know that but they don’t say that because it interferes with their point.
That they keep repeating all the same points again and again is simply tiresome. We have all probably read 100 times that a cease and desist is not a lawsuit. That does not change the fact that many non-legal professional who receive such a letter react with the phrase, “I am getting sued” because to them, they experience the feeling of getting sued. That fear and anxiety, the intimidation, they are all there whether some paperwork has been filed in court of not. Because nonprofessionals are loosey-goosey with what they consider terms of art, they get all in puffed up with indignation. Clearly, understanding human nature is not part of their internet law degrees.
So, why not just be honest? You don’t know. I don’t know. We are speculating. We are guessing. Why not be just a tad humble and admit these are opinions, not facts. You don’t know. Quit saying you do.
ok, cool but given the fact that this was all filmed 6 months ago and yet you have publications as of 2-3 weeks or 2-3 days ago speaking of the subject, there’s half your answer. If she was sued or complied with the C&D this would have been nipped in the butt.
Didn’t they have to go back and re-edit last season because of Taylor and her husband’s death? Didn’t NJ have to go back and re-edit episodes because of Joe’s legal issues, etc.
Very telling. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure it out. If it’s airing and publishing articles about it, there must be no legal issues standing.
This is all a story being sold and we are absolutely buying it. Most of it.
*bud. FML
Casja I like your point of view, I have my own point of view…I investigate “sources said|” routine and apply common sense to the proposed situation…I despise gossips..never will respect them. So when I post..I post my view point…try not to assume that if it is not typed…we do not know..not the case for me at all..
But I also use the posts to form an opinion cuz alot of the “posts” have factual points as well as legal factual pooints…I freely enjoy all posts..don’t necessarily agree with all..who has to?
Thanks Casja
Casja, I agree with you 100%. We are all speculating and kind of missing the point here. Lawsuit or C&D or whatever it is that is flying around, Adrienne is trying to intimidate Brandi into shutting up. Plain and simple.
I can’t stress enough that I think Brandi has a big mouth and spat out details on something Adrienne wanted to keep private. The way Adrienne chose to try to shut Brandi up is what I find awful.
And Klown, who the f’ is Adrienne to threaten legal action against people for not complying with her wishes. What if your friend or even just an acquaintance sent you a cease and desist letter for revealing a secret? And what if this person was incredibly rich and powerful and you, nothing but a bit of road kill to them?
I just can’t get on board with Adrienne trying to bully people into doing what she wants them to do. It’s disgusting.
Cajsa… That was perfect!
You’re my hero!
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A copyright infringement case in no way relates to the one at hand. The analogy is non sequitur.
Diddy had many chances to settle during trial and he chose not to do it. It could be he thought he would win or by advise of counsel.
He new of the case against him he received the complaint. Her answered it. He made countless motions. He could have and was likely looking to settle at any juncture.
Answering the C&D would not have changed his ability to settle. When you go into litigation the judge in all cases asks has there been a settlement proposal and he does that multiple times during the litigation.
Saying it was the C&D is without merit. A C&D answer is not the last resort to settlement. It usually is not even the beginning. Most of the time you never tip your hand because you wait for the complaint but that is part of the legal strategy.
However, in this case the mere comparison is inappropriate. Just because it is a C&D it must be answered. The vast majority go unanswered and nothing happens. I wish everyone with a C&D would run to an attorney. No attorney would turn them away I can guarantee it.
Additionally, questioning the attorneys fees is within the realm of reason. We use words in the subjunctive such as as “if it is” or “if it were.” That denotes ongoing action. We use conditional such as “could” “would” that reference that it fits within our theory.
Finally, I have seen far too many people here state with conviction Adrienne is a liar full stop. The only reason being the surrogacy question based on the Ojai scene and things we don’t know about the divorce and custody. Those are her children and her right to raise them as she sees fit. Coming between the parental relation is terrible, but to some here that is only when Leann Rimes does it to Brandi.
We all have passionate responses and we all present them. If you don’t like a response then don’t read it. That is the best way to avoid your annoyance.
As for Internet lawyers, I didn’t know we had Intellectual property and privacy attorneys on here. That is fantastic. I love IP attorneys, especially patent attorneys.
He knew of the case…
Knew.. Of…
CAJSA,
THANK YOU !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adrienne explains why this season has been so hard on her and why she thinks her lawsuit is different than Camille’s.
I still believe that friends don’t sue friends but Brandi has made it abundantly clear that she is not my friend.
In you own words dated : Jan. 23 2013
YOU ARE BY FAR THE BIGGEST FOOL !!
In my own words dated : Feb. 13, 2013
LMAO
Adriene has admitted over and over in her own words that she is basicly sueing! I dont know why its even up for debate.
I don’t think Adrienne sent anything to Brandi’s attorney. For one, Brandi said her Attorney received a letter from Adrienne’s attorney and Brandi has the letter to prove it. Why didn’t Brandi produce the letter? Even now, Brandi throws out accusations, claims to have evidence but fails to produce any. Don’t you think that if Adrienne were really sent Brandi a letter via attorneys, that Brandi would love to show that letter? Also, strange that Lisa is very close to Brandi. Perhaps Lisa is afraid of Brandi’s outspoken ‘truths’ and fears what Brandi knows about Lisa through Cedric. That old saying comes to mind, “Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.” I think that’s exactly what Lisa is doing. Brandi admits to picking at her face and arms and guess who does that? Meth Addicts. I don’t like Brandi, I think Brandi is conning Lisa and Cedric taught Brandi everything about Lisa. What Lisa likes, dislikes, how she is sympathetic to this but challenges that. I have no doubt, Cedric is behind Brandi. Brandi is no better then Taylor. Brandi has issues of violence. I can’t prove this but I can tell in her eyes the way she stares at the woman she dislikes (In this case, Adrienne), that Brandi looks mean, psychotic. Look at the way Brandi stares at Adrienne. Her eyes look like death. Brandi is psychotic and most likely is using meth.
Also, as for all the tabloid stories, I still think Taylor is most likely the storyteller. She’s a selfish shit stirrer.
While I think Adrienne had sent a letter to prevent Brandi from bringing up Adrienne’s children, and with good reason because Adrienne knew she had a tough road ahead with divorce and custody hearings, Brandi could hurt the legal proceedings. I think Brandi played up the legal letter and made it much more explosive than what it really was. Brandi plays dirty. Gee, I wonder what would happen if Bravo decided not to hire Brandi for season 4, what would Brandi say about Andy Cohen? Hmm.
Brandi only fights back when someone attacks her first.. But thankfully we wont have to find out what would happen because Brandi is one of AC favorites! She’s not going anywhere.
Now, as much as I like Yolanda, I can’t help but wonder who prepped her? Yolanda doesn’t know Adrienne personally, yet she attacks Adrienne’s character. Adrienne is some wealthy, insecure woman who has nothing to show in her life. What! Not to mention Yolanda also gets her digs in on Kyle. She doesn’t evaluate Lisa? She doesn’t evaluate Brandi? Of all people, Brandi and Taylor! Why Adrienne? Lisa is good friends with Yolanda’s ex husband, Mohammad. Maybe there is a plan between the women to go after one woman? It’s obvious that Lisa is going after Adrienne and Lisa is clearly using Brandi and Taylor to do it.
Think about all the seasons together as a whole. Adrienne has never been confrontational. Adrienne has more money than every single one of these women put together and even if you throw in Mohammad, they still don’t come to 60% of Adrienne’s income and guess what, that’s just Adrienne’s income without Paul.
Adrienne is the least most confrontational, and somehow she’s become this selfish tyrant? How did this come to be? Lisa.
Jennifer, you talk like Bernie. Is that you? Lol!
Careful, Melissa/JENNIFER will come after you for comments like that.
Sounds like Adrienne doesn’t like the backlash and is trying to save face. Being a bully didn’t look very good on her…
Something that RHBH is known for is facts..hard to believe huh…Bravo knew there was no lawsuit in the air..because the public can access the info…Bravo was being Bravo…milked gossip any which way it could be distorted…Adrienne was being honest…not ugly…respectful…not ugly..She has no reason to lie-especially about something legal…and something that is affects her children..this was a woman being a woman.
Disagree. And if she were a woman that is respectful she would have handled many issues that came her way very differently. As for the lies, they spill out if her own mouth pretty consistently, along with her Chef. Do real women accuse their husbands of abuse? Send out pictures to corroborate that vile accusation of a lie? And still employee someone who has perpetuated so many vile stories? I think its gross how she actually defends him.
I had no time to read all the comments yet I can see samael above though ……..and i agree with him .. What bravo DIDN”T air got more attention and was more talked about than what they did air in this circumstance
Bottom line is put up or shut up
If the letter exists prove it … I am sure Brandi can make a buck putting it out there I believe its Brandi who isn’t being truthful on the lawsuit .. Records or lack of don’t lie..
Although i agree something is off with Adrienne lately She isn’t dumb ,, Only a idiot would deny something that can easily be proven
Adrienne is lying. She tripped over her tongue during her denial and then threw her help (Bernie?) under the bus. I really believe that is why her marriage died too. She lies a lot. Just watch previous shows. She put it all out there.
Clearly, the fact that Bravo edited out the comments and then edited the footage where Kyle says “it isn’t about the surrogacy”, so that comment is no longer shown in the reruns, speaks volumes for the fact that there was a legal issue. Adrienne can say whatever she wants, but Bravo has not edited out comments and accusations of a “juicy” nature ever before in any of the franchises. The fact that they did now, absolutely leads me to one conclusion, and that is that there was a cease and desist letter and a threat of a lawsuit. Adrienne can say that there was no lawsuit, which may be technically correct, however, there was clearly the threat to intimidate and threaten a lawsuit, and Adrienne isn’t fooling anyone. If I was Brandi, or someone else in the cast, I would leak the letter. All of this just supports the fact that Brandi accused Adrienne of being a liar, and Adrienne has supplied more proof of that accusation. I would love to hear Paul’s comments regarding the situation.