A Message To My Readers..
Hello everyone. Hopefully everyone is off to a great day! I sure am. I wanted to talk to my readers about the commenting section. I’m so appreciative that everyone on the site leaves comments. My goal was to have a comment friendly site except lately it hasn’t been so friendly!
We all have our own opinions and we’re not going to agree with each other but that doesn’t mean we should begin to act childish and say really nasty things to each other or about anyone. I’ve decided I’m going to have to monitor the comments and if I feel like I see anything inappropriate I will block the commenter from ever commenting on the site.
Like I said, I do appreciate the comments but the whole point of this site was to express our thoughts maturely. The inappropriate behavior has made blogging less fun for me. I too have my opinions and get carried away at times but I have a limit and have never swore, or have been inappropriate, and especially name called anyone. I respect other peoples opinions and I expect my readers to do the same.
Hope you understand and have a lovely rest of the day!
-Roxanne
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Well said Rox it is fun to have different opinion we all need to lear to agree to disagree.
I agree! Well said!
Sorry to many typos I meant different opinions and learn to agree to disagree.
Thank you so much. I have found myself in the last few weeks…skipping past posts that I don’t even want to have in my head because the language is so foul. I think we can all express ourselves without using language like that. I really don’t want to see it so thank you thank you Roxy!
I agree xoxo
Totally agree too.
I agree with Roxie, I’m very sorry if I had sometimes lost it cuz just like everyone else I’m human and I do get mad, and somewhat out of hand. Roxie again I am very sorry. xoxoooo….
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I agree with everything you say.
I agree as well – keep up he good work!!
Sounds good to me Roxie.
k boss and it’s your ****ing blog and you do as you please baby doll
THANK YOU ROXY!
Yes! You’re very mature and I agree- the point is to make points! Love ya and your blogs!
Completely agree! Thank you.
Good for you! One reason I really liked commenting here was that people were very civil even if you didn’t agree. With popularity comes the trolls.
I’m not trying to dog you because I’m an avid user of your site. However, I’m reconsidering because in all honesty I believe you have set the stage for the ugly comments. Just like the post on jac before this one, while I may agree with your opinions you are harsh and bordering on hypocritical. You bash her for talking trash, yet you trash some of the wives in particular constantly. While I agree this is a blog and you’re entitled to express your opinions, sometimes the severity of your criticisms set the stage for the readers’ hateful comments. You should consider setting a different tone and your fans will probably follow suit
I don’t agree that Roxy ‘bashes’ anyone or is ‘harsh’. She just has her own opinions that may not be the same as yours or mine but she’s never been cruel or unkind. Do you ever see any name calling or malicious remarks? I haven’t. All she’s asking is that people tone down their comments so they’re not offensive. For me, this is one of the few sites I will read and comment on because it is doesn’t get down in the sewer.
Rox states her opinions on the HOUSEWIVES, NOT the posters. No mater what she says in the thread about the HOUSEWIVES it does not excuse other posters from bashing other posters. If she trashed Jacquelyn does than mean that I should feel like I can bash you for your opinion?
I completely disagree. Bashing the cast members is not the issue. It’s the manner in which those opinions are expressed in the comments. I’ve been commenting on this site since the day it went live and I’ve gotten to the point where I rarely even read the comments anymore because of the atmosphere of created by many of the posters. Mostly those that are quite obviously trolling in the deep. Roxanne does not call be names for disagreeing with her opinions do I’m not quite understanding how you figure that she has set the tone for the ridiculousness that the comment section has become.
I honestly agree. The first time I commented on this site, I was attacked because I did not agree with something Tre’s husband did. I read this site because it is reader friendly, simple and laid out nicely. The comments are expressions of our feelings and no one should be attacked for expressing their feelings. Eventhought I am pro Tre, I think the blog should be a little less biased. I noticed that most of the nasty going back and forth are on the blogs about the NJ franchise. I honestly believe that if you, as the blogger, are a little less biased then those that read your site will be too. It’s also good for business, they run readers away.
Exactly what I meant. You worded it way better.
I agree too!! If you have a comment that is anti-Teresa specfically you get bashed like crazy & called all kinds of names – this site is particularily full of vitriol & hate unlike a site like RT that is at least fair imo.
Hmm. I quit reading RT for the bullying and straight up ugly. Mary was ridiculed by a couple of the most vocal T bashers, because her NJ recaps were interpreted by them as putting Teresa in too positive a light. After a week or so, she gave in to them and completely changed her writing style. Not my idea of fair, but to each their own and all that.
I have to say Kate some of the things you have written on here have been foul. Forgive me if this is not the right kate but i find it almost insane that you of all people are commenting under this post.
That is laughable because most Tre fans have left Reality Tea to post here because they were attacked viciously every day if they dared write anything even civil about Tre. Just check out the posts on there from the last few days, well any day to make my point.
Reality Tea is fair? I have read more fouls comments with vulgar language on Reality Tea than any other Blog on Real Housewives. I am sorry, but Kate I have to completely disagree with you.
Well said, BP. I’m just not a fan of all the Guidice love and the Gorga/Manzo hate spewed daily on here. If you don’t agree that Theresa is Queen Bee and does nothing wrong, then you are viciously attacked by in the comment section. I think Roxi should change the name of this blog to AllaboutTheresa.com or Gorgas/Manzossuck.com. Those would be more accurate monikers for this site.
This is her blog….she can say her opinion. That’s is what it is for.
Then she shouldn’t say anything about the comments, even though I agree that people are mean and viscous. It is ridiculous that roxy criticizes people for parenting skills, family dynamics, and there is name calling (“delusional” for example. Not to mention, the many times roxy’s implications are worse than if she was actually calling them other names. I’m not saying anything but that what she writes sets the tone. While I may or may not agree with her opinion, we all have to admit that the blogs are biased or tilted toward support for one housewife over another. When you choose to write a blog in that essence, then you are inadvertently as it be an environment where people are hostile. It has become a playground for mean fans, especially ones that don’t necessarily agree with roxy
I disagree. First of all this is Roxy’s blog and she is very much allowed to write her OWN opinions contrary to popular belief. What Roxy writes doesn’t set the tone for how viewers/fans react because more so than not, viewers already have their opinions set regardless of what Roxy writes.
The fact that everyone keeps harping on how “biased” this blog is just because Roxy agrees with Teresa is just laughable. She’s giving us information/news with her own opinions and like I stated earlier, that is very much allowed. Her stating her “biased” opinions aren’t any different than that of many other blogs.
It’s not just Teresa fans who act like rabid animals when someone doesn’t agree. More cases than not, the same people (Kate, Samantha, Ha, someone named LO something) are the ones who viciously attack VIEWERS. Of course if someone is directly attacked, they’re going to attack back.
Bottom line is that Rox’s opinion has nothing to do with setting the tone for the comments. Even in posts where she says nothing but positive things about the housewives, there are still people posting rude, obnoxious things which clearly, Rox didn’t set the tone for.
Nicely worded Nicole
Except that here’s the problem as I see it, Nicole: Many of Teresa’s fans feel attacked at the mere idea that someone might have even a SLIGHTLY opinion different from theirs. As if they’re somehow personally threatened by this. Or they act as if in criticizing Teresa, we’re somehow criticizing them.
That kind of thinking can be described as nothing less than fascistic. Or cult-like. Or provincial. Or just plain stupid.
Or paranoid.
It really feels as though the more I learn about Teresa’s more fanatical (I’m being nice) fans, the more I learn about Teresa. Even the voices all start to sound like hers lol.
Samantha,
I disagree. Some T-haters i can have a healthy debate w/ and still like them whereas some are just viscious. If you’re nice, we’ll be nice back
My self-esteem is not dependent upon whether or not I’m liked by a handful of hatemongers. In other words (and perhaps I should have made this clearer), I don’t like them, either. Sorry, I have no desire to join your “club” lol.
And I’ve yet to see an example of what you just said being true.
Claire- Some people do not know how to be nice or respectful, its just outside of their environment or natural habitat to do so! I will still try though
@Samantha, you have on more than several occasions attacked VIEWERS who like Teresa. Don’t expect people to not jump down your throat when you’re attacking THEM. It’s funny that you don’t think you’re doing anything wrong and that T supporters attack you just because you have a differing opinion considering how disgusting some of your comments are. When you make comments like “Teresa is so delusional and so are her fans” you are, in fact, attacking the viewers/fans. FYI.
Don’t forget fascistic, cult-like, provincial, stupid and paranoid. And I said “many.”
I would think that if you didn’t really agree with the blogger, instead of leaving nasty comments or arguing back and forth you simply take your “business” to a blog where everyone agrees with your point of view.
Roxy has the right to blog pro anyone she wants and as those who comment we’ve always had the right to either agree or disagree. Point is there is no need to be nasty or foul about how we state our opinions. I am of the belief that if you can’t succinctly make your point without foul language there is something wrong. If someone disagrees with me…so be it. It is there right, only if you do disagree, disagree without the filth. Make a real point, don’t call names or trash talk others who don’t agree with you.
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For the most part, people create blogs to express their opinions. Of course it’s biased. Many blog owners allow comments, some don’t. They don’t have to, and if they do, it’s a privilege. Anyone can create a blog, but it takes time and costs money, so most people can’t be bothered to do that, because it’s a lot easier to let someone else pay the bills and then complain about her opinion. How would you feel if you got a blog to express your opinions, were nice enough to allow comments, and instead of being grateful, your commenters had this sense of entitlement, were always demanding this or that and telling you what you’re allowed to do or say and in general acted like you’re responsible for really nasty, ugly personal attacks on other posters when you never say anything crazy or nasty to anyone, just because you have an opinion about characters on a TV show?
capile you expressed what i was thinking. thank you.
it’s insane that some people are actually trying to blame rox for some peoples nasty comments. it’s unbelievable how some people don’t get what a blog is. a blog is someone that writes their own opinions and thoughts about a subject and he/she chooses to allow strangers to comment on their blog. isn’t that what we’re doing here?! roxy has the right to type what she feels about a show or charactor. it’s how a topic gets going. it’s up to us the strangers to decide how we will respond. as much vulgar trolls there are here especially these last few days i think roxy would’ve banned their behinds along time ago. but she didn’t because she is open minded and not a dictator. she’s giving “normal” fans freedom to express ourselves along with the “trolls”. it has gotten out of hand with a few trolls and because of their digusting behavior it is now time for the ban hammer and i say good for roxy. this is a great site and i enjoy the stories and i hope trolls don’t try to ruin it.
BP,
This is Rox’s blog. It is her opinion. She can tailor the article anyway she likes. We post our comments. There is no protected speech or freedom of speech on a private site. We post at Rox’s pleasure.
That sounds just about right, Thank-you.
I only just started commenting but have been a long time reader. I love this site and also have it added on my facebook wall. Thanks for all you do.
great idea Rox!!!!
It really is!
Thanks Rox…I tried to say something the other day about people toning down the comments and got thrashed. I UNDERSTAND we all have favorites and we get passionate about it..but to completely wish harm and what not just seems to go overboard. Thanks!
Same thing happened to me.
Thank you Rox!
I know I get carried away sometimes, so that’s why when I feel like I am getting too worked up over something I try to avoid that article for awhile while I think of a way to say it nicely.
I’ve noticed it gets more intense in the RHoNJ threads than RHoBH threads.
I think the reason it is so intense on NJ is because a majority of the people here really define Teresa as their favorite housewife OVERALL and they hate the way she is being treated and it really is a gang up on her this season..so people get passionate about how unfair it seems.
Yes, I agree that some people are really passionate about Teresa’s treatment, but there are people on this site who do not like Teresa or have stopped liking Teresa and the moment someone says anything remotely bad about Teresa that person gets ganged up on. Is accused of being from the Laurita/Manzo/Gorga camp and is called names. So it’s not safe to have an opinion that is not in the majority it seems from what I have read.
I agree 100% with you. It is really hard to have a opinion that is different to what the readers have on this site. If you disagree than more than likely your going to get bashed big time. That is why I haven’t been on this site lately, I hope it changes, because I really do like this site!
ITA Julie, jelly, Stephanie & free kroy – isn’t it remarkable that a 20 ur old “kid” (Roxy) has more sense than some adults who post here. for Roxy.
I enjoy reading opposing views to my own – ESP when people explain why they feel that way and validate their opinion with facts and their perception. It becomes tough for all of us if someone (of any opinion) provokes negativity with their comments. Then, none of us feel comfortable to engage in friendly (even if contentious) banter.
To the commenter who pointed to Roxys editorial style as the reason for negative posts, I respectfully disagree completely. There are many other blogs – MANY – who have a lot more nasty comments posted. Beyond it being Roxys right to have a strong opinion and to voice it – it’s also her right to allow or block negative people from posting. This may be America, but with great freedom comes great responsibility and hopefully temperance.
I’ve really enjoyed posting here and have grown fond of several posters even though all I know about them is what they post in the comments section here. Strange? Perhaps. But clearly a trend – I’m not the only one who sees this blog and the comments section in the same way. So thank you, Roxy. For keeping the sandbox clean and safe for the big kids…lol.
I agree Jelly or a Troll…whatever that is.
Nicely said, Jelly.
I agree.
let’s not say it’s just the teresa fans that are really “passionate”. there are many anti teresa fans that are “passionate” as well and when those anti teresa fans try to say something untrue and nasty about teresa and her kids of course the natural reaction will be “passionate” angry disagreements. so lets not just say it’s the teresa fans because it’s everyone.
I agree that both sides have some fans that are equally passionate. It also makes sense to me that this site would have more passionate Teresa fans because it is biased towards her (which, being that this is a blog and not a news site is appropriate).
You mentioned that people will come on here and say “untrue” things which causes a passionate response. In my opinion, part of the issue is that there are different versions of the truth floating around out there. In many situations all that we really know to be true is what is available in legal filings or screen shots, etc. What happens then is that bloggers (as is their right) and cast members see these snippets of fact and then draw assumptions to fill in the rest of the story. Obviously different people will have different “truths” that the items support. Then fans buy into what makes sense to them and will argue the entire story as fact. Some flare ups I’ve seen have come from two sides arguing what is fact when the reality is that the facts aren’t known. There are also times where people will take someone’s statement as fact and argue it as such. Most of the arguments I’ve seen haven’t been based on facts but rather on opinion.
Even though I have my favorites when it comes to the cast, I try to stay objective and even read blogs that are biased the other way just to hear their version. Shockingly, by doing this I’ve jumped ship in the past 2 months on a long time favorite of mine.
Yes ! That exactly how I feel, and its not that I feel bad for Teresa its cuz I have all been for TERE and her little ones her HUBBY well you know I’m not a lover of him , But I really care for Teresa a lot and her family, I just can’t stand when I see those 4 women all on top of her it makes me so SICK. I FEEL IT’S NOT FAIR……
Jelly- I have completely stopped reading the RHONJ articles. The comments on those are downright vicious.
I agree. Even now people are getting mad and its clearly the same people who can’t understand that everyone has a right to their opinion. Isn’t reality tv an opinion anyway? We all watch the same episodes, but take different things out of it. We all need to respect each other even if we don’t agree.
I am 100% with you guys. I posted something the other day stating I was Team Nobody because clearly they all have their own issues. Some people on here are staunchly Team Teresa, and I have no problem with that..I was just merely stating that she isn’t exactly perfect in every living thing she does and every thing the Manzo/Laurita clan does is not a delivery from the devil! LOL!
I dont post often but im here almost everyday,and you are soo right…..things have gotten a little nasty recently. Good for you on getting tougher.
Very well said. I’m quite pleased that you will be taking this action against these commentors who think it’s okay to write nasty comments. This is “my news paper” that I enjoy. However, when there are nasty comments being left, it diminishes the quality of the site. Roxy, I would also like to add that you are doing a great job! Thank you for everything you put into this. You make me days that much “jucier”. Keep up the great work! You’ve got lot’s of talent girl
Hi Rox, Question, a few articles back I had posted 3 different comments with links from other sites but they were never posted, is linking other articles from other sites not allowed? Love your blog too
You are a classy young lady..xx
I think if you read the comments from poster HA, you can see why Rox took this step. I know i get passionate sometimes myself, but what i saw from this poster took things to such an ugly level and unfortunately that really upset a lot of commenters that maybe responded harshly as well.
Yes Mari ! I stepped in for that, maybe I should not have, but it was the most horrible comments I have seen on this site yet. Truly disturbing, then kids were put into it making it worse. I could not sit back and let this person keep saying what they were. I try to have fun here, I love to laugh and joke . Sometimes it gets intense here and I agree with others its being passionate for what we see happening with Teresa and family
I love a good debate and I would never on purpose try to hurt someone’s feelings, blog site or not! I can tell some opposing views seem to try and incite anger on purpose, and usually they are the one’s I respond to, just to get them to see my point as well. Anyway, take care and C-ya on the comments, lol !!
I understand michers i was tempted to respond with some vulgar things as well, which i know it is exactly what they want, but sometimes it is hard to hold back.
I think HA is Samantha
No not at all michers, I read ur posts during the exchanges w ha and u were not out of line. That was a horrendously nasty piece of posting by that ha person. Ur a level headed person (woman? Man?) who always has interesting viewpoints. I rarely pass by ur posts without reading what u have said. I understand why u would feel that u wished u hadn’t posted while ha was engaging in hate rant, but please don’t feel that way. If anything ur views were shared by many who didn’t respond because we’ve all become protective of this little corner of cyberspace that Roxy has made for us,
Thanks from this Woman, lol ! I try to read yours as well, I have come to notice who the usual crew is, and I enjoy them, even the ones who do not agree with my own points! C-ya on the blogs
What are you talking about, michers? You and a few others are guiltier of name calling, using foul language and out-and-out trashing people than anyone else on this sit.
I hope you’ve at least given up that nasty habit you have of referring to people who disagree with you as pedophiles. That would be a nice start lol.
*site*
@Samantha….you ARE a pedophile. Don’t know if Michers said it, but, I’m saying it. No one, NO ONE posts about liking to see children undress, and the rest of your vile comments. You’re a sick cookie. Get help.
Right on cue. There’s one of the “few others” I was talking about.
Although, in all honesty, isn’t conducting a smear campaign against someone who posts in a comments section of a reality show blog like trying to smear a ghost? Or thin air? The sheer pointlessness and inanity of it has boggled my mind on more than one occasion.
I mean, seriously, what are you going to do? Ruin my reputation? Threaten my family? BLACKMAIL me? Intimidate my friends? Harass my neighbors? Get me fired? Have me killed? LOLOL!!!
Samantha- you are totally wrong, again!!I am not guilty of anything! And if I used foul language, it was because of YOU and your other ego, HA . Trashy, tasteless comments, inappropriate comments, that is all you do! You did comment like a pedophile!! Everyone saw it. I was more than happy to debate with you about the show until you got super vulgar and rude. There was no need for you to ever comment the way you did and still do! And Samantha do not get it twisted: I have never trashed anyone on this site. You verbally assault others on here like its your occupation.
Sam,
Ur comments from May against Gia a minor child were degrading and very disturbing. We all saw it. It is not a smear campaign.
Thereafter, someone who had a different moniker but the same penchant as you do go after Teresa’s children and say she was prostituting them came on the site with the name, “HA.”
Now, “HA” is likely a completely different person. The writing style was similar to yours and we had some suspicion it could have been you.
I truly hope “HA” is not you. Also, I hope you will not talk about Teresa’s minor children in perverse posts. We would feel the same way if you said it about Antonia, Gino or the other son of Mel. It was the suggestive statements in the posts which were disturbing to us.
I like Rox’s stance and I hope we can all just get along and keep the opinions strong.
I meant to say went after Gia.
Have you tweeted Joey Gorga lately, Jennifer? Or, more importantly, has he tweeted you?
OK, I’m probably going to get slaughtered for this… But… Isn’t calling Samantha a pedophile the type of personal attack on a poster that Roxy is referring to? Granted, I haven’t gone back and read the exchange, but there would need to be very strong language to justify a pedophile label. The only way I could see that not crossing the line would be if Samantha was talking about wanting Gia sexually and even then it’d probably be more appropriate to report the post to Roxy for possible banning.
If extreme labels are used against posters then you can’t argue when people do the same thing with Juicy or Tre without being hypocritical. It takes the wind out of future arguments.
Samantha may be one sick puppy. I don’t know, but pedophile is so extreme.
Moxie- Im pretty sure it was reported. The comments were the worst I have ever seen with my own eyes! I have gone back and forth with people on here about different blogs,I apologized if anyone ever took my comments the wrong or disrespectful way. I like exchanging thoughts with everyone, minus Samantha and Ha. They were the most insane comments I have ever witnessed. I blew my gasket with both of these 2, if not the same person. Disgusting on many levels- no decent minded rational adult would ever post those things on here, ever.
Moxie – It was reported by me if by no one else. Jennifer, Michers, Shipp and a few others are in no position to report anything, since it was a friend of theirs (another Samantha) who set the whole thing up.
Moxie,
It is not, if you saw what she posted about a minor child. Rox had to delete Samantha’s posts due to the provocative nature. Samantha posted several posts on wanting to see Gia undress and touch her in certain areas. Those posts were pedophilic in nature by any legal definition.
No Samantha I REPORTED it. You did not. I reported directly to Rox. It is confirmed. You only tried to hide after you were demonstrated to have written deviant posts toward Gia a minor child. Email to Rox + my post on the article Bullying Gia itself imploring Rox to take action and delete those posts.
Samantha you never reported anything. Intact you glossed over it and never tried to defend against it. Sorry Samantha you cannot rewrite the post which you posted on this site.
You started this smear campaign against me two months ago. Your buddy is gone and I’m still here. What does that tell you?
And in case I haven’t told you lately, you’re disgusting.
Samantha,
There was a question on having you banned. But, in not having you run around saying your speak was hampered or that Rox was unfair you weren’t banned. That is the only reason.
You were the other Samantha. There is no if and or buts on that one Samantha. You are one in the same.
So, do not try to hide what you did because you will lose.
Meant to say…u (Sam) running around to other boards and saying your speech was blocked…
Thanks for the explanations and for seeing that I was trying to understand as opposed to judging! I responded based on a gut reaction to the use of pedophile seemingly out of the blue since I didn’t know the back story.
Since the posts have been deleted (and it seems rightly so), I’m going to reserve judgment. After reading your responses I definitely have a better understanding of the existing dynamic which is very helpful when beginning to post more.
I am happy that Roxy is doing this, TKU Roxy!! It was very much getting out of hand, Like the H.W. of season one I liked the early days of this blog much more, it much more .
ROXY-YOU NEED TO REMOVE JENNIFER AND SAMANTHA FROM THIS SITE BOTH OF THEM ARE ATTACKING PEOPLE ON THIS THREAD,THEIR NEW TO THIS SITE AND THEIR TROUBLE!!!!!
jennifer isn’t attacking anyone. it’s sam and his alter ego Ha. jennifer has been mature and hasn’t used any vulgar insults in her posts.
Jennifer has repeatedly made blatant sexual remarks about Gia. Don’t take my word for it; look it up for yourself.
She’s made sexual remarks about Joe Gorga as well, but as far as I know, that’s legal.
lol nice try sam the man but it’s not working. i’ve been reading everyone’s comments and you are the pedo factor. jennifer never made any sexual references about anyone but you. i’ve seen the disgusting comments you’ve made about teresa’s kids. you should be ashamed of yourself and as for the joey gorga comment. she didn’t say anything sexual about him just only repeating what he says about himself on camera for the whole world to see and she mentioned how he was flirty in twitter. do not get facts twisted like you usually do.
I would like Jennifer to stop making sexual references about me, as well. Thank you for reminding me, rukidding?
Or maybe she she should just try to get her mind out of the gutter, period. Just for the experience of it.
Sorry Cat-eye,
I have been on this site since November 2011, I have never seen you. I think the shoe is on the other foot.
Samantha,
I have NEVER made a single remark about Gia. U are disgusting. I have never done that in any post and Rox knows that. I have ONLY described your posts, which we all saw in May. Sorry my dear you are completely incorrect.
Samantha,
I have never made any sexual references about you. I said your posts towards Gia were pedophilic in nature because they were in May.
Samantha was a friend of ours? That is ridiculous. This is the first time you have made that statement. You must fear the potential of being blocked. No friend of mine would ever speak that way about a child. I was so disgusted there is a post directly to Roxy that begs her to delete the posts from the site. Samantha you wrote it. Do not try and rewrite history, especially in light of how your past comments can be viewed post Sandusky’s trial and conviction.
Cats-eye,
You are entitled to your opinion. Sorry if I made you feel that I have not let you express yourself.
I believe I have not attacked anyone on this board. I have answered Samantha from her vile posts about Gia to her non sequitur posts about knowing the Gorgas.
But I am perfectly happy not to post as well. I do wish Rox continued success.
Jennifer, you do not need to keep explaining yourself( but you can defend yourself if need be), we all know and see the truth! I felt crappy having to keep going with that “person’, and now you have had to keep battling- everyone can see the disgust- we should not further it or keep adding. All the sane people even those who may think it wrong of us to try and defend against it, can see what transpires in commenting with that “person’. Lets move on and leave that one to comment to itself! We have nothing to prove in continuing to communicate with that one
sam the man,
excuse me? how on earth did i remind you that jennifer supposedly made sexual comments about you?
again, i’m gonna repeat: jennifer has never said anything sexual about anyone. she has especially never said anything sexual about you either. so don’t get that twisted. nice try what you were trying to do trying to twist my comment around. you really think anyone is that stupid? everyone sees right through your B.S. there’s alot of educated people in here and it’s obvious you’re not one of them.
Michers,
I am so disgusted with myself to engage with that poster (Sam). He/She is the most disconcerting poster I have ever encountered on any site and that includes Reality Tea which is a sewage tank IMO.
rukidding said: “Jennifer never made any sexual references about anyone but you.”
No need to twist anything, rukidding?
And despite my attempts to cut and paste some of the things that Jennifer has said about Gia, they’re just too foul to repeat. They do, however, provide some interesting, albeit frightening, insight into the inner workings of Jennifer’s mind.
sam the man,
who are you trying to fool? i know what i typed and i may have worded it wrong but i only know what i meant. i meant to say jennifer hasn’t made any sexual comments about anyone but YOU HAVE. is that clear enough for you? again you’re trying to twist things and trying to flip the switch by saying jennifer was the one talking about gia? you’re cleary insane but not diabolical enough. many people including myself have seen the disgusting pedo comments you have made about gia and you even made one about kicking a dog. so you’re attempt to shift blame onto jennifer is not working. there are many witnesses here and you’re not gonna fool anyone.
sam the man, i also want to add. that me and you have had not so nice replies to each other so why would i post something for you to try to use against jennifer?
either you clearly cannot see my disgust for you or you saw an opportunity in my wrongly typed sentence and tried to use against me and jennifer. either way you tried but failed at nitpicking at my comment which was your passive aggressive way of pushing mine and jennifers buttons. you don’t know me very well but i’ll always defend myself.
I made a comment about KICKING A DOG? LOLOLOL!!!
Thank You Rox!! When will people get that you can get your point across with out resoreting to the Foul words..If I never see the C word or MF word again it would be to soon. I can’t respect or really even read something from the poster who use that posting style. Come on people there are so many other words to get your point across!!
Nodding. And, not to be a judgey a-hole…but as a judgey a-hole. =) I can not with the uber-nasty names some folks feel the need to call Teresa(in particular). It’s blatantly obvious, that that sort of thing is aimed directly at other commenters, not her. I’ve seen no other cast member(or commenters not openly bashing her…see above) get the level of personal vulgar that she/they do. It’s bizarre. Straight up.
Thank you rox for that
That’s great news! I love reading everyone’s opinions on your site. I enjoy those that agree w/me and those that don’t. Viewer comments are the thing that initially got me hooked on the HWs show and it was disappointing when Bravo quit posting them – or only posted the good or bad depending on the cast member… I really appreciate having the opportunity, again, to read thoughts from all sides. I won’t miss the nonsense that some people were posting.
You are appreciated!
Keep up the great work
Thanks Roxy. I’m a NYer and curse like a sailor, but lately one poster’s comments has made me cringe. Just don’t block me for calling the hooker a hooker.
LOL! That is funny!
Hahaha. No, NYgirl u were he-sterical!! As a new Yorker myself, I can totally relate.
@NYGirl, there is definately a difference between cursing like a sailor (I do) and speaking in a vile,disgusting way, like the poster you AND I are referring too.
Rox, I appreciate your try to tone the comments down. Don’t think it’s gonna work. Vermon is vermon, and will always find a way to get in.
I apologize roxy for any comments that may of been offensive to everyone. You are right and it should be kept friendly as we all have opinions. Not all of my comments have been to bad but they certainly were not kind. So I also apologize to any of my negative comments directed to anyone here who has had an opinion that I may not of agreed with.
I hate that it’s gotten to this point. It’s very simple to choose to use respect when commenting, yet so many choose not to give respect.
Again, Congrats on your success! We support and adore you!!
Is this about me?
I think this is a great idea, in my opinion I think there are other bloggers out there that are jealous of how this site has taken off. I don’t necessarilly think that the hateful comments are coming from Melissa or her sisters but most likely from other bloggers that Hate Teresa and are trying to make Roxy look bad because she is successful. Just a thought.
I agree, Rox posts her opinions of the story not the posters. Most people on this site have the same opinions of Rox. If you dont agree with her, look for another site, such as RT.
I think most have same opinions also! I have a feeling every little thing is going to be nit picked here now by some and not the point at hand. Yes, there are disagreements, yes some are more “passionate”. The bottom line is that none of us should stoop to a level of trashing each other. I have had a comment war myself, but I do not think I have initially ever been one to call another names. I do not mind the disagreements, or backing up what I say or anyone else, if I believe to to be true or close to true, or even if the other commenter is wrong and I know it! I may think negatively and comment on the person on the show – or positive- its my opinion. I should not have to defend myself from other posters,nor them from me!
Michers: “I do not think I have initially ever been one to call another names.”
Think again, michers. Or would you like some actual proof that very clearly proves otherwise?
Samantha, when are you ever going to stop with the bs on here? I have not ever initially !! Do you know what initially means oh mighty one who likes to stalk and talk about little girls? And think before you launch anything about proof ( Remember your comments Sam????) Im allowed to defend myself Samantha against people like you. I cannot believe you are not blocked for all of your comments you make on here!!!!!!!!!
I saw you write in another thread that you’re a mother. I pray to God that’s not true. You’re despicable.
And this is the last time I’m responding to you, michers. You’re a spineless git and everything about you sickens me. Like the Giudices, you represent the dregs of humanity.
THANK YOU AND THANK GOD I HOPE THAT IS TRUE…..FINALLY! DESPICABLE LOOKS BACK AT YOU FROM THE MIRROR .
Sorry michers that you are being attacked by samantha, it is not warranted.
Michers,
You never initiated anything with Sam. I have called her out several times when she didn’t start, so if she wants to blame anyone then let her blame me.
I didn’t like her acts. I didn’t like the fact that after they were deleted she pretended it never happened. However, she never said it was a fake Samantha or she never wrote it. She want to rewrite history.
Sam came on to attack everyone’s from her first post. It was bad, but it rose to a different level when she spoke of Gia and inappropriate touching of a child. We were all disgusted and rightfully so.
No mother In the world would not be outraged. Sam’s statements were outrageous and vile towards Gia and everyone reading this site.
I would like us to get along. I like Rox’s stance.
I think you must be a very good mother. Mother’s know that certain statements are never mentioned. Mother’s know where not to go in a statement. Most people do, but mothers’ in my opinion go that extra mile.
Thank you Jennifer. I loved coming here because even though at times there are disagreements, it was civil and most often turns into some funny comments. BTW- I respect your postings, especially when you present the info to back up what you say! I think its funny to a point when one says things to back up or defend, they are labeled in a cult, viscous, and it resorts to personal attacks. Some need to realize whats good for the goose is good for the gander, but its ok. The only person that has been irritating and hard to ignore is you-know-who… Most of the people who come on here are regulars, and even the ones that have different thoughts than myself, I love commenting with. I honestly do not like hostility and do not want to argue with people on a computer, but when it gets harsh enough I will reply.
I know I’m late commenting on this topic..Michers, I enjoy your comments. You are kind, smart and insightful and bring a lot to this site. I know it’s hard not to respond to Samantha as we’ve all done it. Unfortunately this is what drives her. Some people enjoy the rise it gets from others. We are all smart enough to post around her and not allow ourselves to stoop to her level.
Roxy, I also have been a reader since you first started. Funny that I happened to find you on twitter as your site was in development (I never use twitter..I figured it was divine intervention.lol) I have watched the growth of this site and am glad you’re taking a stance!! With all the anti Teresa sites out there, why must people rain our parade??
I was referred to as “one. sick. fuck.” by “Samantha” because I (accurately) referenced the Halloween episode where the viewers clearly got to see the Gorga infant was left splayed out on the door mat in front of the front door. I believe the costume the baby was wearing was some sort of bat-thing hence the splayed out arms featured in the video-frame that was broadcast. To anyone paying attention it is more-than-obvious that when challenged, it retreats only to later return with some ad hominem attack based on signals/information that appear to have been received via a tin-foil hat.
Please don’t respond to this expecting a return response from me. I meant it when I said I (nor anyone else here who is of a discerning nature) should ever again directly address the Surly Sam Thing. It is truly beneath contempt and I refuse to further acknowledge its presence. I only volunteered this to remind everyone what a low-life this Slug is.
There is not a chance in hell I would have responded in such a way to what you just said if you said it the way you just described it.
I DID respond that way to Jennifer once she made one too many sexual references about Gia. I’m not even disputing that I said it, because I vaguely recall it.
Except that in no way did it go down like you said.
That is, I did respond that way to Jennifer once *after* she made one too many sexual references about Gia.
Samantha,
I have NEVER said anything sexual about GIA, you did. Everyone saw the posts and I spoke to Rox about when I asked her to delete them. So Rox knows who did what, just an FYI on that one.
You came to this board and called everyone a moron and idiot from your first post, so please do to say you were not the first to attack because you were.
Should read, please do not say…
sam sam sam, there you go again. you’re on a crusade to personally attack others. i’ve seen michers respond to you maturely and those times when he has used strong words towards you was because of YOU. i know your game. you patronize, antagonize and push people’s buttons and are very flippant with fans. don’t act innocent. you’re doing it right now trying to get on michers nerves.
you wanna call out michers on his comments well what about yours. do i really need to remind you on your questionable comments? hmm…
rukidding- thank you! That pretty much sums it up
Jennifer we cannot argue with crazy, lol !! I know, and everyone who usually comes here knows who starts with the vulgar nasty insults, most of us saw the comments that were laced with disgust!!!!!You did nothing wrong !
THIS IS CRAZY ALREADY ! COME ON NOW. We are here to TALK about the Real House Wife’s, RIGHT? Let’s just move on with this all, we all know whats going on and YES I TO SAW IT, and It’s very GROSS ! WE all can keep going on,an on but lets just let her or him go. And have fun.
I think this is a great idea an probably a bit overdue. For the most part I’ve been ok with the comments so long as they are directed at the housewives and not other posters or people who don’t agree. It’s always been my opinion that when a person abandons a logical and civilized discussion and resorts to profanity and name calling that they are doing themselves a disservice by cheapening their argument. I just ignore those posts.
I admit that I’ve begun to skip most of the RHONJ posts and the few that I read I almost never venture into the comments section because of the current atmosphere. There have been times I’ve wanted to post but didn’t because I’ve seen the slightest critique of Teresa, not 100% supporting something Teresa-related, offering another viewpoint (even if it’s not pro-Manzo/Laurita), or just asking if we can tone down the comments as a whole result in the equivalent of an online lynching. The sad thing is at times the person who falls under attack is a Teresa fan. Honestly, I feel like it gives the impression that to safely post you have to blindly follow and question nothing which is a shame because it contributes to the “rabid” Teresa fan reputation and erodes the credibility of her fan base.
I might be jumping feet first into the fire with this next part, but… I’ve noticed in both original posts and comments that lots of psychiatric diagnosis are thrown around, many times incorrectly or at least without confirmation. For example, there is a lot of talk about Jacqueline being bipolar. Considering that I’ve been diagnosed as, and in treatment for, bipolar for 20 years I know quite a lot about it. She may be, I don’t know. I do know that her frequent mood swings that fluctuate throughout the day is not typical of bipolar disorder but rather more of a personality disorder – or a combination of anxiety and stress. Bipolar people may only have 3 swings a year because they are such a deep, all-encompassing swing. Rapid cycling bipolars (me) do have them more frequently but it’s rare and very different than what we see Jac going through. I bring this up because there is so much mental health stigma and it seems like any bizarre behavior is automatically attributed to bipolar disorder, not just here but in the media in general. The comments that have been made here bashing her for being bipolar (if she even is) is what I fear people think about me when they first find out about my diagnosis… It makes me fearful that when I finally divulge that info the person will picture me acting crazy and erratic (even if they haven’t seen warning signs yet) and will assume I’m a crazy lost cause and check out. I’d just like to see people be less judgemental about what people can’t help. For example – being a gold digger or prostitution whore is fair game, talking about how nut-so or crazy Jac was acting is fair game, calling someone a bipolar b*tch is a bit much IMO.
Thanks for letting me vent!
OMG! I wish you could hear me clapping!!! The post I made the other day asked how many people had medical licences to diagnose Jacq as bipolar? LOL. I TOTALLY agree. Additionally, I feel the same way about calling her an alcoholic. I, too, could be portrayed as an alcoholic if the editing wanted to only show me drinking..but I am clearly NOT an alcoholic and people keep accuing her of being a drunk. LIke her Baileys moment. A) we dont know that was first thing in the morning just cause she was drinking coffee and B) I could see her doing that in an effort to be humorous as well. But that is neither here nor there…my main point was also that it is ok for people to post and not be 100% blindly a Teresa follower. In fact I have started many posts that say “I am going to be harassed for this” because I know it isn’t going to be 100% in Teresa’s favor and some people will not like that. My point on some posts this week was only to put yourself in other peoples positions and how would you feel if you were to read some of the stuff people write and it was about you or your child. It can be pretty hateful sometimes.
Yes! I think all the name calling needs to stop. At this moment I am Team Nobody…I think they all need instruction on how to have positive, healthy relationships. I should be able to post that without being called names or having someone snidely suggest I’m someone’s husband, sister, cousin or the niece of Melissa’s brother’s nephew.
But is people just saying like TALKING and saying thing’s by talking because if I said why is she saying things like that today is she being bipolar, just to say it. Not saying she really is, I’m trying to understand??? This is a show that people are watching and then if they want to comments on its this what happens??? I really think what was said about a child of Teresa’s on here is so mean & very Gross. I did see it and ya I was as shock as most of you all that someone on HERE to say something about a little girl like that. I hope I wasn’t out of line just now ? But that’s all I needed to say.
Moxie Vi ur post and it’s message are nothing less than inspiring. Thank you for caring enough to share this very personal information. Mental illness is much more common than people think and the resulting behaviors are less pronounced to others, but no less scary to the person with the diagnosis. The various DSM-x names are thrown around way too often. Sometimes thoughtlessly but not with malice. Just uninformed. The only people with the tools to inform are people like u. So even though I’ve never referred to Jac in such a way, I appreciate your clarifying the terms used and again, for sharing your experience.
Best wishes,
Whew! I’m good that last part didn’t come off as a chastisement. The world of mental health, or really health in general, is very complicated and I don’t think it’s realistic for the average Joe to be expected to be knowledgeable about the differences in diagnosis, so I can understand how someone sees a person like Jac who is all over the place and slaps the bipolar label on them. In and of itself I don’t think that labels resulting from misinformation are particularly offensive. I find it offensive when the diagnosis is thrown around as if it were an insult or when there is malice involved, like you mentioned. Mental health disorders shouldn’t be thrown around as a negative judgment, just like how other medical issues shouldn’t be. I think after writing a negative comment about Jacqueline, ending with “she’s so bipolar! ” is meant to be insulting, like saying she’s a bitch. It’s only when malice is intended or a legitimate health issue is used to imply that she’s a lessor person that my personal line starts to be crossed. Fortunately most of the comments on this site haven’t crossed the line but it seems that people are becoming more and more comfortable throwing around bipolar in place of other insults.
Mixie Vi – I really liked both your posts here and think you have made great points. I am sometimes guilty of “diagnosing” people with things that I have no credentials to back up my words. I just enjoy reading about psychology and trying to understand how people’s minds work. I used to work as a social worker and sometimes trying to “diagnose” children in order to better understand them and get them the best help was part of the job description. Old habits die hard. I do not think that I use diagnostic terms out of malice or to make fun, simply to better understand or clarify someone’s behavior. With personal experience with mental illness of many different kinds, I have nothing but the deepest sympathy for those who struggle with some of the most extreme mental illnesses out there – regardless of their age.
In reference to your point about Jac; I agree, I do not think a bipolar diagnosis would be accurate and instead a personality disorder may be evident. Again, I am not qualified to say, I just have my opinion. Also, whether she has a mental illness of some kind does not change the fact that she is a person and someone’s mother, sister, daughter, wife, and friend. She deserves our sympathy for what she appears to be going through. She, unfortunately, also happens to be a “character” on a reality television show whose producing network proudly sells “drama” to anyone who will watch. She has opened herself up to judgment from the world by doing this and this fact alone may have increased her mental stress. She has willingly demonstrated that she needs serious help. I do not think that she should be mocked for her actions; I simply feel sad for her and what she must be going through and sincerely hope that she gets some help very soon.
As far as Roxy’s proclamation goes, I agree that there have been more and more vulgar posters on this site over the last few months. I think this is mostly due to this site’s rising popularity and notoriety and just comes with that territory. On the other hand, putting your foot down as the owner of this site is the right kind of example to set and a very mature choice. Although there is something to be said for not moderating and allowing total free speech, unfortunately there are always going to be those who abuse their freedoms and lack respect for others. I hope that this moderation doesn’t ever go the way Bravo has chosen to moderate their comments sections by picking and choosing whose opinions to publish since I think that kind of moderation is counter-productive to free-flowing opinions and debate. I feel like I have gotten to know a little bit about Roxy as a person since starting following this in November of last year through the way she runs this site, the way she expresses her opinions, and the way that she responds to commenters (on occasion). I trust that Roxy will use your power of moderation the right way and restore the comments section to what it was before the trolls arrived.
I learned in debate that you NEVER attack the person you are debating and ONLY remain on the topic at hand or the points made by the other side. “Attack the idea NOT the person.” Here is a list I found that closely resembles the rules I was taught as a child in grade school when first learning to debate; I hope people on this site can start using them in their comments:
Avoid the use of Never.
Avoid the use of Always.
Refrain from saying you are wrong.
You can say your idea is mistaken.
Don’t disagree with obvious truths.
Attack the idea not the person.
Use many rather than most.
Avoid exaggeration.
Use some rather than many.
The use of often allows for exceptions.
The use of generally allows for exceptions.
Quote sources and numbers.
If it is just an opinion, admit it.
Do not present opinion as facts.
Smile when disagreeing.
Stress the positive.
You do not need to win every battle to win the war.
Concede minor or trivial points.
Avoid bickering, quarreling, and wrangling.
Watch your tone of voice.
Don’t win a debate and lose a friend.
Keep your perspective – You’re just debating.
FYI, you are the first person that attacked me when I make a con Joe
Gu comment. I was very taken back because I just started reading blogs a few months ago and never experienced that before. Hopefully things will change.
Free Kroy – Whoa!!! I did NOT attack you as a person; I attacked your argument and was very careful to do just that. If you or anyone else wants to go back and read the exchange and point out to me where I attacked Free Kroy, please let me know. As a matter of fact, Free Kroy, your post started off attacking other viewers directly and if I attacked you, it was after you first made a rude comment about me personally.
Here is the name of the article that I think you are referencing Video: Joe Giudice Shuts Teresa Up Plus The Boys of RHONJ Mock Joe Giudice it was posted by Roxy back on May 15th. I think it would be very long and tedious to re-post our entire exchange, but I will note the dates and times of each comment for everyone to go back to as well as some quotes.
Free Kroy’s initial comment was on May 15, 2012 at 9:27 am and started by saying: “You guys are in denial just like Treasa….If she would have used her right to freedom of speech and kept trying to explain her side, I really think he would have slap her right in her mouth and she and everyone else would have made excuse[s].”
My initial response to Free Kroy was on May 15, 2012 at 10:54 am (following several other people’s comments), and I started out by saying: “I’d like to point out the numerous ways that your post is dependant upon faulty logic…” I then followed with a standard debate style noting the previous debater’s “Premise or Statement” and then listing how the logic and/or evidence supporting that claim was faulty.
In my post, I used the word “you” only four times toward Free Kroy; they are as follows:
First: “You also dare to presume that the commenters of this site would have been anything short of appalled had the Bravo camera shown Joe physically hitting Teresa. I hope that I can speak for everyone here and say that no one on this site would be okay with Joe hitting Teresa for any reason.”
Second: “Your assumption that because Teresa chooses everyday to respect the vows she made on her wedding day by remaining married to Joe despite their struggles and his bad choices then she is oblivious to what is really going on is baseless and, frankly, one of the reasons the divorce rate in this country is at least 50%.”
Third: “The next bit about comparing this entire situation of Joe’s way of talking to Teresa to the infamous “cookbook” mishap is way off topic and hardly worth mentioning. I will anyway though because, while you are correct in saying that Teresa was oblivious to how Caroline would take the comments in the cookbook, your implication that Caroline had any right to be offended by the comments in the cookbook are misguided. RHONJ and especially the Manzos got a reputation early on for being joksters.”
Fourth: “Teresa, and most fans of this show, are quite oblivious to why Caroline would react the way she did to mild and generic jokes in a reality tv personality’s cookbook. If you choose to equate that with Teresa and most fans being oblivious of some supposed verbal abuse, then I think you need to re-examine the holes in your theories.”
Free Kroy’s next response was on May 15, 2012 3:43 pm, and was after several other commenters responded with telling me that my post was “concise” and “nicely done,” said: “Yes, well written!!! Please offer your services to his legal team. I am sure you would have been able to justify to the judge/jury why it was ok for him to try to illegally obtain a drivers licence under his brothers name and kept him out of prison. Or better yet, helped him not get his licence revoked in the first place. Oh also, you could have definitly justified to his creditors why the hell he could not pay them after building that expensive house and flashing all their material items on national TV thus, allowing them to discharge their debt without trying to illigally file bankrupcy. Oh yes, and when they tried to illegally file bankrupcy you could have certainly justified to the bankrupcy court and their bankrupcy lawers that it was legal to hide your assets to keep from liquidating everything….and cheat the system. Yes, they definitly need you on their team. He is going to need you when he gets that assult charge for back handing his wife for not shutting up when he says so. Get ready, start preparing now, but, when you are not paid your contractual fees while he rides home to his million dollar home and drives around in his expensive cars while his wife (whom I happen to love, but, is oblivious to reality) flashes her diamonds, don’t sue him because he will just find another idoit to justify his actions. #wrong is wrong is wrong.”
So, aside from mocking me and calling me an idiot (or rather an “idoit”), Free Kroy did not respond to the actual debate points at hand. So, I responded on March 15, 2012 at 4:20 pm with the following: “Ah, and the straw man gets brought out again! My previous post kept to the topic of your post, but you have now managed to come back and insult me with your snarky, sarcastic, and straw man defense. Did I not say that Joe has made bad choices? I am sure that I did. Plus, everyone has acknowledged that. It’s obvious. This particular article and your first post are about Joe and Teresa’s conversation in the car as shown in the video above. There was no need for you to bring up Joe’s past indiscretions in such a way as to simultaneously insult my personal value system and insinuate that I would ever lie in a court of law in my hypothetical legal representation of Joe Giudice. If you don’t like Joe, that’s fine; that’s your opinion. I was pointing out where your initial conclusions were missing certain logical premises. I apologize for offending you by doing this. I did not intend to offend you nor did I expect for you to respond by insulting me and my morals. I agree that some things are wrong and some things are right, but I also believe that our legal system functions on the main conclusion that all persons are considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Neither media outlets, reality television viewers, Andy Cohen, Caroline Manzo, free kroy, nor me can be considered a court of law, so I am inclined to wait and see what the courts have to say. If anyone feels that our judicial system needs to be based on a different main conclusion, then I suggest you write to your congressman. On a side note, I think it is fairly obvious that Joe’s legal team is doing a pretty good job without me, seeing as he has yet to serve more than ten days in jail for all the shenanigans that he has pulled.”
Free Kroy’s next response was on May 16, 2012 at 12:48 am, and was, again, mocking me directly, saying: “Please do not post again without using your Premise/Statement format. Your insults don’t offend me at all. I believe in freedom of speech unlike Joe Gu. But you posting on a ‘blog’ without using your formal format certainly offends me. Oh, also is there any way you could justify, oops, I mean explain why all his business ventures have failed and now he is a bitter, angry, abusive house husband…”
My next response is where I actually got kind of upset with being repeatedly mocked after I DID NOT attack Free Kroy. That response was on May 16, 2012 at 10:58 am and said: “Free kroy: What is the deal with you??? Have you no manners? I have not had any interest in insulting you or making this personal, but you continue to insult me. Presuming to tell me how and what to write is insulting. Sarcastically stating that the format of my post was offensive to you is rude. I have only ever used that “formal” format once and I write posts on this blog all the time. I try to only comment when I want to agree with someone or when I feel like someone’s post includes mis-information or missing concept links. I am not quite understanding where your vehemence is coming from or even what/who it is directed at. You seem to be very concerned about what is right and what is wrong. I have to say that your behavior on this site does not help prove your feeble points about Joe Giudice and the rest of the RHONJ cast being “shady” and “wrong.” The case for that could be made quite clearly, as we would probably all agree that we don’t want Joe Giudice as our next home contractor, but you are not doing it very well. As you would say, “wrong is wrong is wrong” and the way that you have been talking to me and others on this blog is WRONG.”
Free Kroy then, very pleasantly, responded on May 16, 2012 at 12:10pm with: “Kate (blah, blah, blah, blah). You have insulted me again by not using tha Premise/Statement format….please stop. Oh yeah and Lighten up. It’s a blog Sweetie.”
So, EVERYONE, you tell me who was attacking the person and not the idea.
Guys- can’t we all ( minus one) just get along?
Im all for “attacking” the idea, not the poster! Disagreeing does not mean attacking a person either..
Thanks, I forgot what post it was, but remembered the screen name. And definitly did not have time to try to find it. Sweetie, you left out the part where you called me a Troll. Whatever that is. Again, you were the first to attack me…. in a super long post. As I said, that was very unusual. This is common on this site, if you make a comment againt Tre then everyone comes for you. Again, you were the first to attack me, I defended myself. That does not change.That is where the back and forth comes in. This is a blog, I don’t think it’s ment to be a forum for constant back and forth debate betweem readers. So, make your comment and allow others to make their comment. And then move on.No debate tips needed. Debating back and forth turns into arguments and personal attacks. It’s the Housewives not Foreign Policy.
I’m sorry, not sure if you call me a Troll or Straw Man.
I never called you a troll. I also didn’t call you a straw man. I was refering to the Straw Man fallacy, which, according to Wikipedia, means: “To “attack a straw man” is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by replacing it with a superficially similar yet unequivalent proposition (the “straw man”), and refuting it, without ever having actually refuted the original position.”
I just don’t appreciate being called out as something I am not. My reputation is important to me. I understand this is a blog and not a Lincoln-Douglas Debate. Debate rules are just something I try to follow in order to keep from attacking other readers personally regardless of how emotionally I am invested in a topic. I am not trying to dicate how others reply to posts, simply giving suggestions. I took it personally when Free Kroy said that I attacked her personally, which I know I did not do. If she felt attacked by me, then I apologize, but I wish she could understand that I in NO WAY meant to nor was I trying to attack her personally ever.
I accept your apology for calling me a Straw Man or Troll or whatever it was. And I apologize for defending myself. But, it does not bother me when anyone has anything to say about my comments on a blog. It’s really not that serious. I am a big girl, I will handle it. Just pointing out the truth. Carry on.
Just wanted to say that Bipolar Personality Disorder IS a personality disorder. It’s just considered by professionals to be a less severe on than say, Antisocial Personality Disorder. I think that it has become a catch all dx for the layman bc it’s easy to recognize SOME of the symptoms. Kind of like kids today use “gay” to mean “stupid” (which I totally disagree with, btw). The term has just become part of the vernacular just like “psycho” has, which just refers to pscyhosis, which is truly NOT that common in the general population. (Sorry, I hate to “correct” people bc I know it’s not malicious, but I think this is part of the first step of clearing up some of those misunderstandings about mental health).
Anyone with a dx on Axis II has either a Personality Disorder or certain other issues. Most of the general population can, at times, exhibit symptoms of Axis II dx’s, but in reality, it takes a LOT to actually qualify for the dx. I have been “guilty” of dx’ing on here, especially Jac, and in all honesty, I don’t do that lightly, it’s not a party trick. It is just what I do bc I’ve been trained to do so quickly with people that I observe. Now, would my dx of her hold up? Maybe, maybe not. It is definitely where I would start, and then go through the process of elimination to actually DX with further information and observations. Right this second, I am about 95% sure that she would qualify for an Axis II Disorder, maybe a combination of more than one. Just my two cents… (hoping this doesn’t come off as “superior acting”, that’s not my intent, just wanting to provide information bc I have it, please don’t be offended!)
Just wanted to stop in and say, that there are MANY folks who have Bipolar Disorder who cycle daily. I work with several, and it’s not “rare”. I did say previously though, that I don’t think that is a correct dx for Jac, as I’m leaning more towards a stronger personality disorder myself, if I had to dx her.
I do understand what you are saying about the stigma, and I hate that, bc it’s no different than if someone was diabetic and needed treatment, imo. I actually did dx Jac on here, but just so you know, I have a license to do so, lol.
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And as for things that people “can’t fix”, I’m not sure I agree with that. I do believe in biological factors in mental health, but I also believe that many people can learn coping skills and function on a much more stable level… if they WANT to and are willing to put in the work. It’s not easy, but it’s definitely not impossible. But of course, that’s coming from me and that’s what I do for a living, help people learn to manage symptoms of mental health disorders, so I might be biased.
And, as trends go, the stigma is decreasing and the understanding increasing. Some people will ALWAYS believe that anyone with a mental health dx is “crazy”, you can’t win them all. BUT, it’s SO much better than it was 50 years ago, or even 10 years ago. So, keep faith, and know that you are NOT “crazy”, and that all disorders deserve treatment and respect, and demand that from those around you. A line that I like to teach my younger patients is, “Just because you don’t understand something does not give you the right to belittle it.”
With much understanding and respect, PsychGrlee.
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All due respect, PsychGrlee, but if you are a mental health professional, as you claim, your diagnosing someone you see for less than an hour a week on TV, and whom you already seem to be a bit biased against, might be viewed as somewhat misguided.
Adding to my suspicion is the fact that I know that soon, on the show, Teresa is going to sell yet another story to the tabloids, this time regarding Jaq’s mental health.
It just seems strange that someone just suddenly shows up in a reality show blog all ready and willing to back up that claim.
Sorry for my cynicism, but the rumors fly fast and furious around here.
And there is absolutely nothing in Jaq’s behavior to warrant the diagnoses of having any type of personality disorder.
Sorry, but I have to take back my “all due respect.” I just read a few of your comments and there’s not a chance in hell that you’re a professional in the mental health field.
I really wish the more fanatical of Teresa’s fans would quit doing this. Giving themselves fake credentials, that is lol.
I believe any person who has dealt with friends or family members who suffer from mental illness can see that Jacqueline is breaking down. You don’t need to be a medical expert to see the obvious. There is nothing rational about her behavior. I keep mentioning this..Jac’s behavior is very reminiscent of Brittney Spear’s several years ago. Her family needs to intervene. She also lacks in the friendship department. She, in my opinion has broken all the rules.
Thanks Dubbs for your comment above- I feel the same with just about everyone here minus one. As you can see, it never stops. Im getting confused as to why most of us agreed to being behaved and trying to mind our manners, but that one still carries on.. such is life. Oh , yes, I agree with your comment here as well in regards to friends/ family w/ illness
Jac is reminiscent of anyone we have seen go down that road. You would think she would not have signed on for season 4 after breaking down season 3? Thats why she supposedly did not go to reunion.
I’m just going to carry on. There will ALWAYS be bullies and instigators, always. They will never play by the rules. Ignore, Ignore, Ignore.
not a problem roxie- this is your playground and we are privileged to ‘play’ on it.
and we should all learn to play nice, even if we don’t agree.
Amen! I follow the rules of another website I visit: say whatever you want about the people on the show but other posters are off limits. I’ve been here since day one and the site was a lot more enjoyable to me before all the fighting. Thanks for changing your policy.
THATS THE BEAUTY OF THIS SITE ROXY THAT WE DONT ATTACK EACH OTHER PLEASE DONT BLOCCK ME IVE BEEN HERE FROM THE BEGINNING AND I NEVER ATTACK THE OTHER BLOGGERS ON THIS SITE
Thank you – debating the issues intelligently is what I come here for. Name calling and just vile comments are not warranted. Keep up the good work, this is my favorite blog
love the site but is it necessary to completely block a user for one inappropriate comment? maybe if they do it consistently but i dont think punishing them for one comment is fair. idk whatever you want rox!
I think it would be MUCH more effective if people weren’t blocked, but simply ignored. I KNOW that is difficult, but if everyone could do so, then it would extinguish that behavior, eventually. Even if it didn’t, it wouldn’t matter, bc we would all get used to just ignoring that person and it would be like they weren’t there anyway. And, if they aren’t getting others to “play” in their game, where would the fun be for them? It takes a lot of self control, but if the “regular” posters and readers could do that, it would be awesome! Bullies WANT interaction, they want to push your buttons, they want to be responsible for pushing you to do and say things that you wouldn’t normally do, bc then they feel justified and satisfied that they have forced you to react in a way that you aren’t proud of, therefore, in their minds, making you just as “guilty” as them. They really can’t stand it when they are ignored, lol.
I do agree with this as there is nothing worse than reading peoples funny comments, and then a little way down, having to scroll through a long monotonous argument.
If we are all so against bulling on these shows, which I am for sure, we shouldn’t express that by bullying each other for just an opinion.
I agree Rox! Thank you.
I cannot speak for everyone, but I am sick and tired of having to deal with being comment assaulted by Samantha. And I love this site and I do not want to leave it because of that disturbance. Its far past the show I think.. not even debates about Teresa or other cast members. Its to incite arguments so she can name call, talk nasty about kids,fight with strangers to feel better.
@Michers…….you can speak for me, and I agree with you. I don’t even feel like coming here anymore. I know some others that feel the same way because of IT. She, IT, (Sam, aka Ha, aka Gross) incites for the fun of it. I don’t suffer fools lightly. IT is a bully. I don’t tolerate bullies.
And would you believe It just bashed me again, insulting me, of course, calling me names… Its ridiculous and unnecessary! Total waste case.
You being insulted by Samantha is not warranted, sorry misheard.
Its crazy, but I guess I have to find a way to block it. I do not like the personal insults outside of the cast/ show. Thanks socal
As hard as it is, do not give them that kind of power over your mood and responses! Treat them like you would a tantrumming 4 year old… Don’t feed into the behaviors!!!! Actively ignore, and only respond to someone when they are appropriate. Some people never outgrow that need for attention, albeit negative. Just don’t play! You wouldn’t try to rationalize with a 4 year old having a tantrum, you would, without doubt, let them know that behavior is NOT going to get them ANY attention, good or bad. I’m telling you, it works in theory AND in practice!
Ha- this I know. Im just sick that someone has to continue to be like this on this site. Because you laid out such an informative comment, and ” she” seems to know the cast and other details, you will most likely be targeted!
Yeah, that’s okay. I’m pretty tough skinned due to my profession.
And yeah, it has already happened, I honestly just don’t respond at all. Some people just like to push buttons for entertainment, and I just refuse to take the bait. Even when they insinuate that I’m not really a licensed professional… lol. 
I have seen some really disgusting gutter language from some posters, laden with curses and violent thoughts.
I certainly don’t mind the Teresa Defenders who truly really care for her welfare and that of her family. I find those to be very sweet. I don’t mind how protective they are when they come to her defense against someone/some people express dislike for TG. Most do it civilly.
But the few who resort to gutter language, well, those I can do without.
I like many people here. Seem like very nice women and men.
Yay! I’ll start commenting again if the nastiness is stopped! Thanks Roxie
Emma. lets just hope Rox is still monitoring people when RHBH hits, right? ;0
I like reading more than posting. You are doing a great job roxy. Do what’s best for your blog if people dont like it they can hit the road ????
One more thing roxy, how about first blocking the comment as a warning and if it keeps happening block the user. If the person is a well know trouble maker, give then a warning first so they know we are here to have fun an express our thoughts ????
Just a thought…
Miss Isa, very good thought, in my opinion!
I’m so glad you’re taking a stance on this! Those vile comments in a Teresa post a few days ago were just beyond disgusting.
Thank you! I wish other bloggers would follow your example. There’s no need to bash each other or get nasty just because someone is a Tre fan and someone else isn’t. I like that you’re keeping your blog friendly. There’s no need to be mean and hateful, and sink to the level of some of the housewives!
Thanks Roxy!!!!
Music to my ears Rox!!!! I don’t post often here but once loved visiting this site. It has become very mean as of late therefore I am hopeful that with your request, things will return as before….a place filled with different people sharing different opinions. Kudos to you!!!!
Thanks Roxy! I had left your blog and to my surprise I see this awesome message. Whenever I left a comment that wasn’t in agreement with others, especially concerning The Guidices, I was maliciously attacked. This is growth for u and your blog.
If your against Team Teresa you get eaten up on her. God forbid people pick Melissa or Jac around here!
I registered for this site just so I could comment on how much I agree with this article! I have been lurking here for many months and love to read all the housewives news in one spot. I, like many of the comments above, have started skipping the New Jersey articles (even though I love the show!) because it felt just too biased and some people were out of control. I definitely have not been on the site as much because it hasn’t been the light and fun escape that I was used to. It was disturbing how passionate people were getting over a television show!
Roxy, I am so impressed with how much you’ve done so quickly with this website and can’t wait to become a daily visitor again!
Should I have a guilty complex right now? I swear I think I sound like all of the above. Almost. I do tend to rant and I know I need to stop that. I do try to address other bloggers who say that I got out of line and I do apologize when I do. I will watch my ranting and I will watch my profanity but I would never attack anyone on any blog.
What???????
No more names like ‘Jacko Wacko’ and ‘Caro the Clown’?
Rox, spalin yourself! Can we still ‘name call’ those clowns??
There is NO way, I can say words like :
Caroline, Jaqueline, Melissa!
Hahahaha…. Yes please define Roxii!!
SPALIN??HE HE
SPLAIN~
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I am going to Cabo San Lucas today, I will miss this blog for a week ):
Have fun!!!!!! Lucky ducky
ROXY I BELEIVE YOU SAID YOU WOULD WATCH THE BOARD MORE,IT IS OBVIOUS THERE IS A BIG PROBLEM HERE AND HER NAME IS SAMANTHA SHE NEEDS TO BE REMOVED!!!!IV’E TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THIS THREAD PLEASE DO SOMETHING ABOUT HER,SHE IS A BLOG BULLY AND SHE NEEDS TO STOP IT WITH MITCHERS,SHE DOES NOT DESERVE THIS.
Thank you so much cats-eye! Its nice to know that people are caring and decent on here for strangers! This has been an on going problem. And yes most of us should have never given in and tried to take a stance, at times it was unnerving, sometimes I personally could not ignore it. I have to tell you , you mentioned Jennifer above- she is not a troublemaker harasser. She has been through some rounds with that person as well as many other smart, articulate decent posters on here! No one that gets the wrath from that “person” ever deserves it. It irritating because thats not what we come here for and although there are some major differences of opinions, that is the only person who gets uncontrollably vulgar and rude. Thank you, have a great night !
I wholeheartedly agree.. Half the time reading your blog Roxy, I am so flabbergasted by some of the comments left that I completely forget what you have posted.
So much is lost due to petty, idiotic, baseless comments.
Michers and like hopefully this will end for you and healthy debate, conversation will ensue.
I agree with you but I think most of us casual posters just skip past her comments and most of Samantha’s attacks of other posters since they are so frequent. I think she is associated with maybe the Marco sisters or Melissa’s pr team because she only goes after Tre fans, but maybe I am wrong. Just skip her posts because she likes to goad other posters for confrontations.
Roxy I am very glad you this stance, I am a great-grannie, the curse words offend me along with the bashing of a child.
When I read through the comments and see the trolls, I just scroll past them and do not comment, depriving them of their recognition.
you “took” this stace (geez proof before commenting)
My Dear Fellow Posters: Most of you are quite wise. You do realize Samantha’s posts are done solely to try to disgust people so they will not read or post on this site? I even saw a post where someone said they weren’t posting here anymore because of her. Yeah right. (Said with major North Jersey sarcasm) My immediate thought–someone is trying to plant a seed.
Seriously?
Hmm, maybe. I am peeved at myself for ever even commenting back with “her”. But I have never seen anything like that on a forum like this! It bothered me , and had to say things at times. And if someone goes to those lengths to do such a thing, what does that tell you about that person- EEEEEKK! Moving on, I will not be communicating with “her”. Hope she sticks to her threat of never responding to me anymore
Blessing!!!!
Michers, don’t feel bad, it IS hard to not respond when someone is putting that much energy into getting your attention. But, I think that ignoring is the best way. My personal opinion is that bullies attack those that they are jealous of, and that says a LOT to me. If you are being attacked, it is probably bc you are speaking well, making good points, etc. So, for the bully to “achieve” getting you to lose your cool is a big accomplishment in their mind. Then, in their mind, they can point at you and say, “see! Not that smart, not that well spoken, just look at how they act!”. Don’t give them the pleasure or the power. I always enjoy reading your posts, and I just totally laugh at the bully bc it’s such a thin veiled attempt. You have, imo, done a good job of ignoring (mostly!) but I can totally understand why you reacted… but I’m sending you strength to NOT react again. Hang in there
I am more pissed at myself. There was a way to have had her blocked back in the beginning when the original posts happened. However, I thought it was great that Rox didn’t block her because she would have gone to another site and say this site was bias towards her.
She really angered me yesterday. It was awful.
I want to ignore her. It is hard to when she starts ranting on about complete lies.
I know
Im sending yo u a hug. I felt the same Jennifer. No more- washing hands- she is ” dead” to me,lol. ( figure of speech)
Thank you!
You welcome Michers but as you have noticed i haven’t been posting for a few weeks and this is when this started because i took the time to read the whole thing and i was pissed cause this was a perfect place to vent and even disagree and yes you can get mad but ignore it close down,don’t let people get the best of you.Kill em with kindness as mother puts it.I really learned alot being on Reality tea and i found this site thru lena 1 and i like it i’m staying!!!
are my comments not being posted? i have written a few and they all say awaiting moderation. i’ve seen that in the bravo blogs and mine are never posted on their either.
Thank you Rox…..I too have shared my thoughts and views and a certain person did NOT like it and I was attacked just because I stood up for a certain lady on the RHONJ. Im 44 and have my own opinions and DO NOT need to be attacked just because another doesnt agree with me. THANK YOU SO MUCH, I will start reposting my thoughts again,
XOXO
Why are my comments being deleted or not showing up?
PsychGrlee….I haven’t seen Rox post anything for a couple of days. Perhaps there is a technical problem with the site. Just a thought.
Note – I see your comments.
I see yours and Rukidding’s!
oh good, mine got posted. i guess it was a technical glitch. hate when that happens.
Sometimes it is hard to see becaus they fall below. If you change device it won’t remember you, so you need to fill that in. It you double click on submit there can be a hold up because of the double click, but for the most part I do not think there is an issue. I see your posts.
If rox can block certain instigating posters on this site, why isnt she? Time and time again this poster has shown herself/himself to be vile, rude, and had instigated countless fights on this board.
I dont know about anyone else, but I think making sexually explicit comments about a minor child is beyond crossing the line and is definitely grounds for getting banned. Ive seen the comments with my own eyes, yet to this day that particular person is still able to write posts here,continuing his/her bad behavior. SMH. Banning this person could be a start.