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Stassi Schroeder is known for saying outlandish and offensive things. The Vanderpump Rules star has built a career out of judging people on and off the reality TV screen.

Whether you love her or hate her, Stassi always draws people with the good, bad, and ugly things she says.

I have always been a huge fan of Stassi. Usually, I just roll my eyes at the crazy, and sometimes offensive and uneducated comments she makes. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, right?

Well, Stassi got herself into some major hot water yesterday over a quite offensive, and now deleted, episode of her podcast, Straight Up with Stassi.

Since debuting her podcast in 2015, Straight Up with Stassi has become a very popular, in part because Stassi gives it to fans straight up – no chaser, no lemon twist, no apologies.

However, Stassi’s latest episode “Are We On a Male Witch Hunt?” ruffled more than a few feathers.

In the episode, Stassi tackles the growing sexual harassment epidemic and the current #metoo movement. Despite her best intentions, the episode didn’t go over well with fans; forcing her to take it down.

So, what could Stassi have said that was so offensive?

To be honest, there’s a lot but here’s just one outtake from the episode.

“A lot of them are more than willing to go to that hotel room. I’m sorry, no one can make me suck someone’s dick. I don’t understand. My opinion on a lot of these…there are ways to get out of it. It’s the easiest thing to just be like no no no. But I’ve been reading all these stories of women who they were making out with this person and then they were forced to go down on him. That sounds like he thought you liked it right because you were making out with him but now years later when it’s now a trend to say #metoo you’re going to come out and say that you were sexually assaulted because you felt embarrassed that you did that.” – Stassi Schroder

Nonetheless, the damage was already done. Besides the backlash from fans, several of Stassi’s podcast sponsors dropped her quicker than a hot potato and publicly distanced themselves from her, unpopular, opinions.

With her career quickly falling apart, you’d think Stassi would be in a Pinot Grigio induced coma, but instead, the reality TV star poked fun at enraged fans calling them “morons” and “assholes.”

My question is: where are her PR people?

Stassi retweeted several “supportive” tweets about her failed podcast episode and defended her opinions to fans insisting that they missed the point of her podcast.

   

Stassi even urged fans to unfollow her if they didn’t get her humor.

Meanwhile, Stassi has recorded a follow-up episode but no word on if and when that will go up.

I listened to the podcast, thanks to Chelsea C from the Adderall & Compliments Kittens Facebook group, and spend the time transcribing it for you all. Hi fellow Kittens!

So, here is the transcription for Stassi’s now deleted podcast episode “Are We On a Male Witch Hunt?”

P.S. This shit took me between 5-6 hours to transcribe so please don’t give me any shit for grammar or punctuation mistakes. Let’s call it a wash this time, and you can come for in my next post 😉

Stassi Schroeder:
All right Jakaris bitches. I laugh every time I say that. You’re not a Game of Thrones person, are you?

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
No, but I laugh every time someone calls you Khaleesi. Or they call themselves or introduce themselves to you as the Khaleesi

Stassi Schroeder:
It makes my day and year. So welcome to Straight Up With Stassi. This is going to be a very polarizing, maybe perhaps hopefully inspiring episode of this podcast because we’re going to talk about some sensitive issues some things that I’ve been wanting to talk about and I’ve wanted to share my opinion, but I get scared that I word vomit too much and I’m not well-informed enough. So the other day I was having lunch with my guest Jennifer Hoffner. She grew up in L.A., So she knows like everything and everyone.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Well, that’s what happens when you live in a small town forever.

Stassi Schroeder:
But people that aren’t from L.A. don’t think of it as a small town. They don’t.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
That’s true because it just seems so glamorous and big. But it is a small town.

Stassi Schroeder:
It is such a small town. And I’ve learned this from you actually really like yeah like the more like I talk to you about things the more I realize like holy shit. I mean obviously like my little bubble I feel like it’s a small town. But, even like say Malibu, Calabasas, Santa Monica, even go to Pasadena everything is small.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s like small pockets spread out.

Stassi Schroeder:
So we were having lunch the other day, and I’m just going to remind you again to talk as loudly as possible. We were talking about everything that’s going on.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I got super excited because I’d been waiting to talk to you about the Hollywood sex scandals.

Stassi Schroeder:
All of these sex scandals all of the whether they’re accusations or not or true started by the whole Harvey one thing. I have. I has addressed the Harvey Weinstein thing on my podcast a few weeks ago because I tweeted something, a joke about being like I’m offended by, you know what I mean I made a joke about that and people got upset, and I explained you know what…

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
What were they upset about?

Stassi Schroeder:
That I would joke about rape. What happened is Morgan I wasn’t going to say her name, but she had tweeted something that said she was like I was at a party with Harvey Weinstein and he didn’t hit on me. Should I be offended? And I retweeted it, and I was like fuck yeah you should. I’d be offended.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I actually asked Jake that this morning, my husband. I was having a conversation with him, and I said hey you know I’ve never had a situation in my entire career and I’ve worked with many many many different men really famous men lots of writers, directors. photographers and I’ve never ever had a situation where I felt unsafe or sexually harassed or touched or anything, and I made a joke, and I was like does I mean I’m not cute? What’s wrong with me?

Stassi Schroeder:
Why was I not hot? Like I’ve wondered this too. I’ve been very lucky in the industry that I’ve never had anyone be inappropriate with me.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Same of course.

Stassi Schroeder:
Of course at a party or someplace place I get my ass grabbed, or I’d get someone making a comment. Or even if it’s a Hollywood party or something like that. Like you know that or there’s like a fucking older man who just his hand is a little too low but it’s like whatever. So I had been joking about that too. Was I not hot enough in every audition that I went in on? Why hasn’t this happened to me? I know.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Have you seen it happen?

Stassi Schroeder:
No, I’ve never.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Do you know anyone?

Stassi Schroeder:
No, I don’t know anyone that has been forced into a situation. And so after I made that tweet I tweeted that and I did bring this up on my podcast and I said I am at this at the time. I was very proud that women were able to speak out because I mean there’s everyone’s known about Harvey Weinstein right. Forever. Forever. But also the casting couch has been something that’s gone on forever. The beginning of Hollywood. That is just how it worked. You knew if you were going to move to Hollywood to be in you know the industry you eventually might find yourself in that situation.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Chances are you’re going to meet some sleazebag, and you’re going to proposition you to either like come to his hotel or meet him at his house. I mean you would think that most people would put it together.

Stassi Schroeder:
Don’t go to their house. Ask to go… even if they’re not asking you to meet at their office. Then say why don’t we go get lunch in a public place. So after I said how proud I was of like women, then all of this stuff started coming out where it’s now like a man which witch hunt.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
OK. It’s like the Salem Witch Trials for men.

Stassi Schroeder:
It really is.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s you know I’ve been thinking a lot about it, and it just seems like public opinion means everything right now. It doesn’t matter who you are if you are a nobody or somebody anyone can say whatever they want right now/

Stassi Schroeder:
And it’s just taken as truth.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It really is, and it’s who made us the judge and jury. Like why are we the ones judging these people – It should be in a court of law. It should be handled by a DA. But for some reason it’s social media has turned it into this thing where everybody who’s nobody opinion counts. You know what I mean?

Stassi Schroeder:
Yes, absolutely. And I don’t want to take away from…I definitely need to start with this by saying I don’t want to take away from the actual victims who have been raped. It’s horrific. It’s I’m sorry for anyone who has had to experience that like I am so with you. But now that it’s gotten to a point where like people are like you know 12 years ago this man had his hand a little, or like 20 years ago George H.W. Bush had his hand a little too far down on my butt. He’s an old man. Do you know how many like old men like couldn’t like his yes look like he’s going to sexually harass someone in a wheelchair with his wife and everyone around him. You waited 20 years – Are you kidding me? I just feel like every little this a little, but again half the things are true half the people are actual victims. But then there are also all these little…

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Illegitimate stories.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yes, because they want publicity.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
But you know like you were saying it takes a lot of guts for a victim to come forward and talk about what has happened to them. But all the silly stories and silly accusations overshadow these victim’s stories, and it takes away from them. And I mean where’s the fine line. I mean I guess there’s no fine line. is there a fine line? because you can accuse someone of force kissing you which then you just push them away.
Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):

Stassi Schroeder:
You know many times I’ve pushed somebody away.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Same and you know it could be a good friend who’s you know professing his love for you or you know some guy at a club or wherever whenever. If someone just comes in you know, they see a sign from you, or they think it’s a sign they move in for a kiss. How is that sexual harassment? You can say no. Or you could push them away or you could maybe they missed red signal. Exactly misread signals. And so you know that takes me to like how? all of this has changed the playing field for men because now it’s like what’s how far can you go with flirtation. You know I don’t even know how to flirt anymore. So I flirted in 10 years I’ve been flirting, but you know like a guy has to hit on a girl and you know what if he hits on her the wrong way. What’s the wrong way now? You know like what if his actions are misconstrued. Is that going to be sexual harassment? Guys are getting scared now.

Stassi Schroeder:
This is where we’re on the same page, and I’ve talked to many women about this, and so that’s what gave me like the balls I guess to be like you know what I am going to talk about this and that doesn’t make me anti-feminist because if you if you were actually raped I’m. Of course, we’re all in support of you.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
If you were physically assaulted and you know, and you have…I guess I shouldn’t say if you have evidence like there’s a lot of women who are coming forward right now. I mean many many many years later an accusing like what can you really. How can you really prove it after so long like what route do you take to punish somebody.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yeah. We’re going to take Harvey Weinstein out of this. So let’s take him out of this right because this is something we’ve heard of for a long time. But what makes me upset about this is I feel like especially in Hollywood because that’s the only industry that I know women have come so far, they have come so far. And I thought the pendulum was like going to like swing completely in our direction once the Harvey Weinstein thing happened. And now I see it going completely in the opposite, and it’s like we’re taking a million steps back because now a man is not going to want to be in the same room as me alone. So you’re not going to joke with me anymore. I asked my producers this. The producers have been a part of the deal. I was doing interviews the other day, and I was like you’re up. Do you think like Eventually, you’re going to be scared to like make that joke with me? You’re going to be scared to be alone with me. I mean they acknowledged they were like Yeah. It’s like really it’s them. Granted I know them so well. We’ve had like the same crew and producers for six years, so it’s like we’re family. But on other shows, they’re not like family with our cast member. They’re not going to be able to act the same way. And I like being treated like an equal. I’m not a doll. I have always felt like an equal.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I never felt like I was a man or beneath a man or any guys that I worked with.

Stassi Schroeder:
You know sometimes I feel like the boys get away with so much more than I would like on Vanderpump Rules or something. But but it’s I still feel like an equal. I think it just goes based to it’s like person to person not like whether what your gender is. And I’m angry that now people are going to men are going to be scared. I’ve noticed that certain men that used to ask me for lunch like producers like people that are in the movie industry or TV industry they would message me or like let me know like I liked that Instagram’s story or whatever or something or like keep up the good work on this or you know we had a dialogue that was completely appropriate. They no longer message me they no longer asked me to do anything.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Do you think that’s because they think that you might misconstrue it as inappropriate?

Stassi Schroeder:
I think everyone is terrified. I think men are terrified right now. Yeah.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I mean you know we wanted to be equal, and now it feels like we’re not doing things and the equal way it just feels like everyone’s out for mob justice like vigilantes. Yes. It’s crazy. And I’m I don’t know how they’re carrying out the firing process and letting people go from their jobs when they’re accused because it almost seems like the day that their name comes out in the press they’re fired. And are they being given you know due process like where’s the digging into the story like where are we even investigating is any of that happening and it just makes me wonder if all these studios are so scared. Earle all these agencies are so scared to have their name associated with one of these people that they don’t want to take any risks or do damage control, so the easiest thing to do is let them go. And when they let them go it’s not only them that are affected the entire crew and the cast members who worked so hard on these movies and shows for you know years and months, days and hours and it makes me so sad. And it’s people like Julianne Moore who is on these movies, and you know I don’t want to go into naming names, but there are so many people affected by this. This is public humiliation for the wives. I’m sure most of your listeners don’t have a clue who some of these agents are. Like why. Why does the mass public need to scrutinize these people who they don’t even know who are not even household names like if you want to report somebody if you if anyone out there who has been sexually… take them to court, tell the police. Going on social media, it’s so bizarre to me. Like I don’t understand what people have to gain. I know some people get their 15 minute shopping. That’s a lot of it.

Stassi Schroeder:
I’m watching all of these girls come out, and they get to do interviews. And then there are actors that I have actresses that I haven’t heard from in a really fucking long time that are saying things.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
OK so remember when we were at once were discussing one male or option might have been over a text because every morning when I wake up, I’m like here’s a new one. When we were talking about Jeremy Piven and how we were like Yeah we kind of see it because he’s kind of you know but he took a lie detector test, and you passed.

Stassi Schroeder:
That’s fantastic. Just because someone is gray doesn’t mean that they’re going to sexually assault someone. Jeremy Piven can be a little too flirty a little and a little too douchey but like that doesn’t mean that he assaulted somebody, you know. So I think that a lot of girls who go out in Hollywood and then there are these guys that go out in Hollywood and see how they are and think I could get away with with calling that one out. I could get away with saying that he assaulted me because he has a reputation of being douchey.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
We have a name for these girls. Hamsters. My friend is pretty well known and made this up. There are all these girls who are always around him, and they want something from him and he always called them hamsters which was hooker, actress, model, stripper, trainer, entertainer runaway which is pretty much the majority of the girls who make up L.A.But no there are these girls and they’re conniving and they want to be famous, and they’ll do anything for it meaning they’ll even sleep with you for it and I’ve seen this so many times because I have a lot of male friends and I’ve seen how women try to work them. I’ve seen men getting worked for condos for cars for pretend jobs on TV like they’re basically sponsored. You know I’m a model and actress, but it’s like what have you been in. Where is your portfolio? What have you done? And it’s like you know all they do is have lunch meetings all day long and they’re preying on producers and directors and wealthy men. And so that stuff happens.

Stassi Schroeder:
So if you hear us say the word hamsters, that’s what referring to. These are the ones that aren’t being truthful right now that are coming out and trying to get some attention

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
So speaking of hamsters you know back in the day in the 60s or 70s if you wanted to be a model you had to go to a training school and I know this because I read Grace Coddington’s memoir and she had to go to modeling School where they taught you many things about being in the industry. One of them was safety. Like self-defense and avoiding scams and protecting yourself from dangerous situations and I feel like every girl who comes to L.A. with a dream needs to go to one of these classes.

Stassi Schroeder:
Agreed but this is also the problem. A lot of them are more than willing to go to that hotel room. I’m sorry, no one can make me suck someone’s dick. I don’t understand. My opinion on a lot of these…there are ways to get out of it. It’s the easiest thing to just be like no no no. But I’ve been reading all these stories of women who they were making out with this person and then they were forced to go down on him. That sounds like he thought you liked it right because you were making out with him but now years later when it’s now a trend to say #metoo you’re going to come out and say that you were sexually assaulted because you felt embarrassed that you did that.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
That happens so often and especially in high school and colleges, and I’ve been reading a lot about mothers of sons who in college get accused of rape. And so when Obama was in off office there were laws in place that had. So basically if someone was accused there was a thorough investigation you needed very little evidence. But I know that Betsey DeVos the head of the education department reversed. It had demanded colleges use the lowest lowest standard of proof, preponderance of the evidence and deciding whether a student is responsible for sexual assault a verdict that can lead to discipline and even expulsion. But on Friday the education department said colleges were free to abandon that standard and raise it to a higher standard known as clear and convincing evidence which means you need to have more proof because what happened was when they went back and revisited so many of the cases that the men happened to be innocent And you know I saw this in high school a lot growing up in L.A. and in colleges in L.A. that I knew a lot of girls who would get silly wasted at frat houses and fall asleep there and you know before they’d fall asleep they’d hook up with a guy in the next morning they feel embarrassed and then couple days later you know when the story was circulating it was like ‘oh he raped me’ or ‘Oh he assaulted me’. But it was like all your girlfriends saw you go in there with him like you were happy. And you know I don’t know I mean some of those cases are true.

Stassi Schroeder:
But that’s what it takes away from the actual true victims the people that actually have experienced this, and that is what frustrates me so much.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Because no one’s thinking of the consequence and the weight of accusing someone especially in the age of social media were like I was saying it’s like you know the era of mob justice like you name one person on the internet and it blows up, and you ruin their life and maybe they didn’t even do anything maybe you had a bad day. You know I don’t know a lot of times that has happened and I actually I was telling you the story about how I was involved in the case a couple of years ago where I was a witness to something and a woman who was a hamster had to accuse someone. She went live on TMZ and accuse someone of domestic violence a situation one night where the situation was completely reversed. But because he’s a man he can’t stop her from assaulting him unless he hits her. So she was provoking him and doing all kinds of stuff, and he had to just basically take it from her because he couldn’t do anything. And later she tried to sue him for five million dollars. I mean he was loud because he what can you do if a woman is attacking you physically and you can’t hit her. All you can do is raise your voice. Throw some furniture you know throw a couple of pies. She’s still one of the biggest hamsters out there.

Stassi Schroeder:
And you know once a hamster always a hamster, and it was a hamster. Can’t get away from that life.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I mean if you’ve got sponsors paying for everything why would you.

Stassi Schroeder:
What am I doing wrong? Should I be a hamster? I love like not being a hamster. Like every time like I receive a check like I go and buy myself some shoes I like feel like this like since I love it I cry. I love paying for dudes actually like to be the one to pay. It makes me I feel like I’m in control. I hate not feeling like I’m in control.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Is letting a man pay for you on a date letting them have the control?

Stassi Schroeder:
Well I mean obviously I let them pay. But like my blood runs a little like I get like a little nervous and like I it depends on what kind of first day I want to see. And then I say I say later get drinks you know, and then I pay for them

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
That’s nice of you because I just feel that girls in L.A. don’t do that well at least from what I hear from the men who take them. They kind of just expect like the man to pay for it.

Stassi Schroeder:
OK. This is a PSA out in L.A. you have a unicorn right here in West Hollywood. Who is anti-hamster but I’m thinking of turning into a name of change.No I like paying so I get I. Because there’s so much power that’s exchanged with money. Like I don’t ever like to maybe that’s why that’s never happened to us before because we both have this thing about us. We’re like I feel like people know not to mess with us.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I think I do too that maybe it’s not that we’re not cute.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yeah, I’m going to go with that because I’d like to believe that I’m hot enough for someone to be maybe I’ll try something. This is no offense to the like the victims we’re on your side. But I just like every single day it’s a new person it is.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And you know I think that you can I think that you can still support. All the women who have who are victims, but you can still also look at the other side of it. I mean it’s not all black and white.

Stassi Schroeder:
How do we do that though? And that’s what I wanted to do this episode. How do we do that? I mean because the second we say anything it’s oh my gosh you’re not a feminist.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
My girlfriend told me that I had no sympathy. But as I said I do have sympathy but I also know that putting all these men out there on this platform and you know throwing rocks at them is not the solution. It’s not the solution.

Stassi Schroeder:
Unless that person is Harvey Weinstein or someone who raped someone. Yeah, I’ll throw rocks till I die. But we don’t know the truth about so many of these things.
Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Look all of us you and me, our parents our friends everyone in their life at some point has been hurt verbally or physically whether it was in school or you know your significant other. Someone has said or done something to you that deeply hurt you right now. Are you going to sit around for 20 years and think about that hurt and then 20 years later be like oh you’ve ruined my life?

Stassi Schroeder:
That’s why I retweeted something that a girl I can’t remember which woman tweeted this but it went viral a little bit. It was like retweet this if like you’ve ever been like shown a penis that you didn’t want to see. And I’ve been on dates where like they’ve got like a little too aggressive and thought that I wanted to do something I’m like no and ran out of there.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Girls do it yes girls said boob pictures and like you know throw themselves on men like it goes both ways. Like all of us do it. So now what like if a woman goes in touch touches a guy and private parts. Is he a get to come out and say you sexually harassed me? How will people treat it?

Stassi Schroeder:
Exactly it is like where does the line fall. And like what is the dialogue that we have about it.
Because right now it is. No one is saying what we’re saying. No, they’re saying it in private. We’re all saying it in private but no one’s talking because everyone’s scared.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
There’s like a stigma.

Stassi Schroeder:
You know it does not make you not a feminist or that you are not supportive of females. I don’t like the word feminist. It drives me nuts everyone has a different definition of what a feminist is. So when someone’s like are you a feminist, I’m like I don’t know. What is your definition of a feminist and then I’ll tell you if I am or not. Of course, I support women, and I want women’s rights, and I just want equality that’s it. That’s legitimately All I want.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
But all but well now it’s like it’s not equal because women are going to take over. Like let’s kick the men out and women are going to take over.

Stassi Schroeder:
No, the men are going to be in control. And now we’re going to it’s going to be like every meeting that I go in is going to be like a fucking gynecologist where I’m going to have to have a nurse there. I don’t really need a nurse with my gynecologist to be with you for like 10 years like I trust you. You’re not really going to…you’ve seen vagina, and it’s the most sterile situation ever. I trust you.
Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Yeah, and you know what the entertainment industry is a business like any other business where it’s against the law to sexually harass somebody. So if they’re doing it to you and your office space like you can file reports you can go to the Better Business Bureau like there’s actions you can take. And there’s no need to feel afraid like you’re going to lose your job.

Stassi Schroeder:
And I will play I’ll play devil’s advocate on this one. I guess so many people women have said that they were threatened to have their careers ended so when they did go and report it I guess maybe they weren’t reporting it to the right people. But when they would report it to somebody who was higher up they would say if you really go out and do this like your career is over – we’ll take you down. And that is that is definitely a problem if someone’s been sexually assaulted. Of course that is a fucking huge ass problem. But it’s the whole proof thing.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s I mean I’ve seen people being silenced when they speak out. It had nothing to do with like sexual harassment, so I do believe that in the industry it has.

Stassi Schroeder:
I feel silenced about things. But sometimes you know what I felt silence about so many things that I will probably never ever say in public. I’ve never been sexually assaulted but like so many I have been silenced. I have had things come out on the radio and have it being taken down like literally like episodes of a radio show be taken down. And I just kind of you know it’s like fuck it. It doesn’t matter. I don’t need to tear this person apart. Like it I don’t need to ruin this person’s life. That’s fine. I feel like people might think I’m being insensitive when I’m talking about people being silenced or saying get over it like no because I’ve been silent so I understand it’s kind of a part of life that we have to deal with. Men have been silenced as well. We all go through times where we’ve been shown a dick we didn’t want to see. Or we’ve been silenced or had someone touch our ass.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
We don’t live in a perfect society, and we can’t create perfect people Now it’s awesome because. I mean there will be a lot of change. A lot of positive will come out of this. The casting couch is gone.

Stassi Schroeder:
I mean but I don’t care about the casting couc. I don’t care what another woman wants to do with her body it has nothing to do with me. So if some woman wants to get wants to go and have sex with a producer in order to get a role. By all means. Nothing to do with me right. I give zero fucks. I don’t want to it’s not my shit. It’s not the kind of person I want to be friends with. But if that’s your thing then I don’t care do everyone. Everyone is entitled to do whatever they want as long as they’re not hurting anyone.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
So basically you’re just saying if someone’s being accused of something as terrible as…

Stassi Schroeder:
My main two issues are that one men that actually have not done anything are being accused and their reputations being ripped apart. They’re losing their careers, not just jobs, their careers are going down in flames, and they have families, and there are other people, like you said, that that are collateral damage like the crew. And then my second issue is that I want to be able to be alone in a room with a dude and not have him be scared of me and I want him to be I want you know the men that I work with to still be able to joke.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
So speaking of men who are getting accused. There’s one very interesting character right now. His name is Al Franken. I’m sure you’ve heard his name all over the place and he’s actually known for being a former SNL cast member. He turned into a senator and one of the big big things that he was pushing for is net neutrality. So net neutrality is…it’s like it is very complex so basically right now we all have a provider for our Internet rate. It’s about the way freedom of Internet. So it’s basically freedom of speech. It’s it protects our freedom of speech in a way because right now we all pay for internet. We all have a provider. Everyone gets the same speed Internet right now right. Right. Or you pay for a little bit extra. Net neutrality is that you’ll be paying more for certain Web sites you visit – Google, Revolve, Refinery, MSN because what they’re trying to do is make money. He was fighting to block it because the Internet has been free to everybody like it was. Yeah, it’s crazy. And they actually slipped it in yesterday. It allows Internet companies to favor other companies of course over you know it would change everything. It means everything would be like a monopoly you’re going to be paying a shitload of money. So anyways Al Franken has been speaking up about this, and they’re about to vote on it soon, and he’s on the Senate and what they did was they release this story about how he sexually harassed somebody, and now they want him to step down. And he’s like a key figure in helping net neutrality stay neutral.

Stassi Schroeder:
What are they saying that he did to sexually harass them? It’s a photo, it’s ridiculous. He can’t just have fun? He’s not touching her boob.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And what is she gaining from like what kind of jobs would she have lost her like you know how did that affect her? How did that traumatize her?

Stassi Schroeder:
I legitimately would not care if I was like having fun with someone and someone pretended to touch me. He didn’t even touch her.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Well I mean that’s what he is saying. It doesn’t look like it. But that’s what I’m saying. It’s like it’s a really interesting time to release the story when you know all this is going on about net neutrality and it almost looks like there’s you know all the sexual harassment stuff there’s two different like there it’s happening in the political spectrum, and it’s happening in the entertainment industry and they all have their own agendas. And then it makes me wonder like well what’s happening in other businesses and companies that.

Stassi Schroeder:
You know the times that I have felt the most uncomfortable with a boss we’re not in the entertainment industry when I was working at a coffee shop in New Orleans really as a barista. Like those were my most uncomfortable like saying I remember my boss saying creepy things like about the way I looked and stuff like that and making sure I was working on like the days he would be there he like brought me to the back office, and she was like look at this and showed me like you know back in the day when like Perez Hilton had like the photos of like Britney Spears and people getting out of the car without her. Yes. And you were like asked me to look at those, and I’m like that’s really weird. I need to go do my job, and I would just walk out like I said that is inappropriate and right fucking That happens all the in every other field of work. People are being harassed. But we can’t get to a point where all of the sudden people are scared to communicate. Where’s your threshold for like sarcasm you know, like where is that. Where does that lie? You know what people could maybe come after me dudes who I’ve worked with could maybe come after me and be like you made so many inappropriate jokes, and I’d be like Oh well sorry you don’t have a sense of humor.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And like how long will it can take you is you know what I really wonder. I know that the Los Angeles district attorney created a special division just to handle all of these cases coming in and the sad thing is that a lot of it is just like he said she said and it’s like how do you prove in a court of law to really prosecute and charge someone as a criminal without any evidence. So when you come out, and you’re accusing someone like what do you want from them like what is it that you’re trying to gain? Do you need an apology? You know do you want them to pay for it. Do you want money? Do you want them in a prison? like. What is your reason? And you and you know I’m not judging your reason, but it’s just I’m really curious as to what your reason is like what are you gaining from that. Besides the whole you know mob justice like you want someone to pay because they mistreated you well then I want all the people who mistreated me in the in the industry, and you know what they were all women. All of my lady bosses were the worst bosses I ever had. And someone you would I know that shared a bit a boss was like the meanest boss in the whole wide world, and she would put women down she’d put little girls down and say well maybe I should come out and accuse her of not being nice and you know people are doing that now. Someone accused Bijoux Phillips of body shaming him. Why are you coming out in the public? We didn’t see it on film like why does the whole wide world need to know you should write a letter to her

Stassi Schroeder:
Do you know how many times that’s happened to people? It happens all the time every second of the day.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s the worst. But I see I just don’t real. I don’t understand like what is the purpose of coming out at such a crucial time with something like that.

Stassi Schroeder:
Well, that leads me to somebody else I want to talk about. So I’m going to like because it’s now shifting from just like sexual assault so like everything you could possibly do to shame someone

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
She’s so sensitive.

Stassi Schroeder:
Like I said I wanted to bring up how now it’s like kind of shifted and it’s not just about sexual assault it’s like anytime anyone offends you. And that brings me to Kathy Griffin. Andy Cohen thing and you just told me about which I had no idea you didn’t know. So apparently Andy Cohen was leaving at. The airport and a TMZ guy was asking him about the fact that he’s replacing Kathy Griffin on the New Year’s Eve countdown of the dropping of the ball with Anderson Cooper.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I much like that do better than I do too. I don’t understand Kathy. I don’t I don’t really get her either.

Stassi Schroeder:
I’ve never really understood her either. I don’t dislike her. I watched it, and Andy Cohen goes like ‘Kathy, who?’ which was enough to spark this huge thing to the point where Kathy Griffin sat down and filmed herself which was I guess a 17-minute video. I when I looked it up this was a couple of weeks ago I only saw that it was a four-minute video and I watched it, and I was so perturbed so annoyed because her complaint was well she had a couple. One, Andy Cohen knows exactly who I am he was the one who produced my show like life on the D-List or whatever, I’ve done Watch What Happens Live. You know this is bullshit. But then what was really frustrating is she goes both times I was on Watch What Happens Live Andy took me into an office and offered me cocaine. First of all, nothing to do with anything with anything. I have no idea whether that’s true or not. I’ll just say that’s not true. I don’t know why. It’s not relevant to anything – Did he hurt your feelings? And I actually really don’t like cocaine at all the times that I have tried it. I hated it. So there’s that. But like am I going get in trouble when I like offer someone a glass of wine next time? You never know who’s sober. Poor Andy Cohen. I don’t know whether it happened or not. But if it did legit has nothing to do with anything so no now it’s going to be out there that he does coke and offers it to people and it’s bullshit.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
She’s butt-hurt because he didn’t acknowledge her and so her payback is oh I’m going to say this. It’s like a little kid. It’s like really it’s like oh you offended somebody so now I better just wait for it.

Stassi Schroeder:
She said she said that she’s like I went to higher-ups over at Watch What Happens Live in Embassy Row and all that. And I guess that they didn’t do anything about it Bullshit. You would not go to any higher up to report that someone offered you cocaine.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s tattle telling.

Stassi Schroeder:
Could you imagine me like going to someone like Bravo or whoever the fuck you go-to be like you know…

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Wait please tell me that he’s not facing repercussions?

Stassi Schroeder:
I mean I hope not. I don’t think so, but it was out there so much that anyone like say someone in middle America who watches watch what happens live or watch Bravo and they’re fans of Andy Cohen, but they’re really anti-drug use that then shifts the way that they view him. I got so upset that I wanted to go and give Andy Cohen a hug.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Well, you can give him. You’re there in spirit in spirit giving them hug.

Stassi Schroeder:
It’s like it’s like nothing’s off limits. I’m waiting for someone to come out and say something about me.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
You know what would be easier if we just made a list of all the really nice guys in Hollywood and that would just make everything so much easier.

Stassi Schroeder:
That’s a really good point. We should. Do you know how many people I offer a Xanax to when I know they’re going on a plane?

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
You could get in trouble for that.

Stassi Schroeder:
OK. So now I’m like I’m trying to be nice. I’m trying to help you sleep on a plane. I could now be accused of something.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Yeah. What if you really like a guy right now and you like text him all day long and you like send him nude pictures, and you like really like him. I don’t know if guys would do it, but you know like that could that what he’s like yeah I didn’t want this.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yeah, I didn’t want to see your tits. I didn’t want to see your vagina.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Oh God yeah it’s just crazy looking at the New York Times after Weinstein the fall out for thirty-four men accused of sexual misconduct. And there are a lot of them that are really legit like there are multiple women coming out. And then there’s some that’s like one woman, and it was forcible kissing, and it was like lewd texting, and it’s like really he’s going to step down from his position because of lewd texting.

Stassi Schroeder:
Oh, my God.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
That’s not freedom of speech.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yeah, block him if you don’t want those. That’s a really good point. Where does the freedom of speech…Where is that line drawn?

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s a lewd text.

Stassi Schroeder:
You know what I when people send me I got random text from numbers that I don’t know. I’ve got pictures of dicks from numbers that I don’t know. Do you know what I do? I block them. I block those numbers. I don’t then continue a conversation.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And that’s what I like that’s what you should do with someone you know is making unwarranted advances or you know bothering you via text or phone calls. You stop it.

Stassi Schroeder:
I just think it’s the easiest thing in the entire world to not go to somebody’s hotel room late at night. And it’s the easiest thing in the world to not make out with that person if you don’t want to. And it’s the easiest thing in the world to not suck that person’s dick, if you don’t want to.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I mean if a man is inviting you after you know a decent hour, what’s a decent hour like 7 p.m. , 8 pm?

I would never go to never go to someone’s hotel room alone at 8 in the morning. I don’t care if it’s the sun is bright is beating so bright like I don’t care what time of day it is. I’m not going to somebody his hotel room.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
No.

Stassi Schroeder:
Because you know, so you know what you’re doing. So I really do believe that a lot of these people are victims. But I think half of them are women who wanted to make their careers, yet they knew exactly what they were doing. They feel like shit about it. Now it’s payback, and they’re coming out and because it’s also trendy. It’s like it’s trendy. It’s so easy. It’s fashion. It’s like a new handbag.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s the easy way to get famous now. But who wants to hire someone that you know comes out falsely accusing somebody. I mean you’re a liar. So why would anyone hire you if you falsely accuse someone else? What do you have to gain? I don’t understand. But speaking of people who don’t go to hotel rooms at night I know one of my really good friends was dating a girl. And right before he well actually while he was dating her she was up for a role in a movie which was going to be produced by Harvey Weinstein. It’s based off the book called The Alchemist, and Laurence Fishburne was a part of it. And she had a beautiful look she was going to play Fatima who was like the main character, and she had really really taken the role seriously, and kind of was emulating her at that time, and someone had recommended that she look into this project and she went with this friend to this party that night. And you know she looked like everyone was taken by her, and she’s a really intelligent well-known actress in town. And Harvey Weinstein took to her, and he wanted to know who she was and got her agents number and contacted her and said you know like I saw you at this party you know I know that you’re you want to be a part of this film please come meet me at this hotel. And she said you know what, no thank you. No thank you. I’m not going to your hotel room even though I want this fucking roll like I know better. Like what good can come from me going to that hotel room and you know what he called her and called her and called her for a while and she was like fuck no because she’s not desperate like she wasn’t desperate and she has dignity, and she’s smart enough to figure it out. Like I’m not going to a strange man’s hotel room at night it you know that stories like that do exist in L.A. There are a lot of women who turn men down you know, and they keep going, and they’re not afraid. And I think that that’s something to be celebrated too because you’re standing up for yourself. Without you know taking much action. But you’re saying no.

Stassi Schroeder:
I just hope that I am so wrong. I hope that I’m so wrong when I say that men are not going to want to be around us anymore and I feel like it’s going to become even more of a man’s world.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Oh, I I’m sure will. I don’t know if it will be more of a man’s world but the direction we’re going in now, it’s like everyone saying oh let’s swap out these guys and replace them with women. You know as as like a token of like Oh we’re sorry.

Stassi Schroeder:
I don’t want to pity. I don’t like it. Don’t give me a pity swap.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
No, I earned. I had a mentor in my early 20s, and she’s a famous creative director, and she’s in her 60s almost 70s now and one of the things that she told me was that when you’re a woman in this town and she experiences as a young woman in Hollywood, so there’s two ways you make it in this town. Either you slept with the right person or you worked hard, and you got super fucking lucky. And I feel great to say that. I mean I think I’m one of the lucky ones. You know you’re one of the lucky ones. And a lot of our friends. I mean a lot of people we know know other people who have experienced this. I don’t know anyone directly.

Stassi Schroeder:
I keep trying to wrap my brain. I really can’t think of anyone that’s been put in that situation.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Me either. I really can’t. I can’t think of anyone except for you know the person that I know that you rejected Harvey Weinstein. I have male friends, and I actually have asked a lot of them recently like well how did you know how does this make you feel like how do you guys feel being men in the industry in like pretty prominent positions and great positions like do you feel safe dating. And you know one of them who’s an older gentleman was like I’m over it. You know I don’t even care anymore. I’m not interested. You know you just don’t know what someone is going to accuse you of. You just don’t know.

Stassi Schroeder:
That’s terrifying. It breaks my heart. That is a huge major thing for a man to say.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And look, and you don’t know what you’re going to get accused of. It’s not only men it’s women like we were talking about Lena Dunham who has just been named as a hipster racist.

Stassi Schroeder:
You got to explain to me what…

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I wish I knew. Hipster racism hipster racism like an underlying racist they have underlying racist tones but cover it up by saying like oh we’re just you know being sarcastic or whatever like you’re being too sensitive. Like they make jokes, but they don’t have any friends of different races or different colors I know like everyone in her circle right now. From the article that I read was accused of being similar to her.

Stassi Schroeder:
I told you that one of my cast members had accused me of that. I still think about it all the time. And then I thought I I’ve actually talked to my therapist about it. I’ve talked to I’ve like thought in my head over and over again because it was about oh say this because I was talking about the Academy Awards. And I was talking about how I don’t understand how Black Lives Matter is such a big thing. What about the other races? Why don’t I hear about that? You know Asian lives matter, Mexican lives matter, Native American lives matter, Indian lives matter. Why don’t I hear about anything else? Why is it just that? So but then for people to say I’m racist for questioning that. Isn’t that the opposite of racism? To say why can’t we talk about all of the races.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s like public opinion to me. It’s so crazy to me like you have to watch everything you say and do and what kind of a society is that. I just don’t understand. We should all be able to share our thoughts and feelings about things without being attacked or labeled. I think labeling happens a lot and that was one of my fears about talking about this was that I was going to be labeled like you know a woman hater. No I know because I don’t support women and that I’m not sensitive and that’s not the case at all it’s just being able to take a step back and really see the facts on both sides and have a pragmatic look at it pragmatically instead of just from an emotional viewpoint.

Stassi Schroeder:
And that is why I I beg to you and I have to tell my Khaleesi’s this like I begged her to do specifically to do this podcast because she’s so well informed and educated and articulate and I think word vomit like a mother fucker which gets me in trouble and she teaches me things so when you read an article it’s like you like really like soak it in and take it. Like I I retain like 30 percent of the information, and then I get a lot of it wrong.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
You’re pretty intelligent too.

Stassi Schroeder:
I mean I’m not dumb but I’m no you, and so I wanted to have you on with me to do this. But yeah we were both scared and we’re still scared there’ll be a backlash.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
You know it’s it’s looking at things from a different angle. It is.

Stassi Schroeder:
We want equality. That’s it. And the victims are really like the main focus that says that should be the focus and like the real victims and I just think that there are so many stories out there now that it’s taking away from like the real victims.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Yeah totally like you know of course victims of Terry Richardson. He was a horrible shitty human being like know women that were you know had interactions with him. I mean I would be traumatized just from hearing some of the stories. And you know Harvey Weinstein, and you know what. He was just so gross. I mean you know and today Nick Carter gets accused.

Stassi Schroeder:
You know like I’m waiting there’s still some that haven’t come out yet, and I’m waiting for. I’m not going to I’m not going to.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I mean I. I’m scared to say that. I’m waiting for a couple of people that…

Stassi Schroeder:
I don’t want I don’t want you to name names you just I feel like it’s what I’ve heard too much and I know too many people that have heard the same things, yet I’m surprise certain people haven’t come out yet.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Supposedly there was a journalist who obtained a copy of a long list of names of all of the sleazy men in Hollywood, and he sent it over. What was he like. Mean girls burn book who remind you that you had this man wrote the list of all the names of the rightwing journalists and sent all the female editors that he knew, and so supposedly there’s a list. I mean I can’t verify it. See I like that. Feels like a mob. That’s what I’m saying. I think it’s creepy.

Stassi Schroeder:
I don’t like it. How do I know that this is the person who wrote this fucking list wasn’t just Regina George being like I’m pissed at this person, so I’m going to write this person’s name down.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
No way. It’s crazy. And you know where the quality of that. We’re hunting them down.

Stassi Schroeder:
Basically, we are hunting men down. Every single man in the industry that I talk to is scared.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
So far the list is at 34 that have been outed. Dustin Hoffman is on that.

Stassi Schroeder:
I just discovered that today, and it broke my heart.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Dustin Hoffman and I don’t know if I can believe it. I mean I don’t know him.

Stassi Schroeder:
But it’s the same way I feel about Michael Jackson. I can’t be a Michael Jackson fan I’m sorry for that.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
You can’t listen to his music?

Stassi Schroeder:
No, I do. I still like I don’t have it on my Spotify but when the song comes up in a bar I’m still going to dance to it I’m not going to leave.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Ok, so I was going to ask you how you feel. I personally can continue to watch Kevin Spacey shows and movies, and I’m sorry, but Harvey Weinstein is a piece of shit. But you are the only filmmaker that chose films that tell stories.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yes, I am going to continue to watch all of you know what. He’s not the only one who gave me that.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
There’s so many actors or any other storytellers and yes you know like oh I’m not going to shit on their talent because they made shitty choices

Stassi Schroeder:
Or because they worked with a shitty person.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Exactly. It’s it’s just ludicrous it’s insane.

Stassi Schroeder:
You can still appreciate art just without.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Yeah. It’s like people who say oh I’m never going to watch a Woody Allen film. He married the girl by the way that he’s been accused of…

Stassi Schroeder:
I’m not going to like I’m not going to defend Woody Allen but you know who I will defend all the people that worked on his movies, who put in the time and effort absolutely wanted to make art and Midnight in Paris is one of my movies.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
That’s what I mean you’re not going to boycott Midnight in Paris because he made it. I wish that people would still think and feel that way because you’re supporting a lot of other people and one person should not pay for the sins. Other people shouldn’t pay for the sins of one person. And you know unfortunately that’s where we are at now. Studios cut entire movies and shows and cancel them, and that is so…

Stassi Schroeder:
I mean House of Cards is over. I mean I never watch it, but I know how big of a deal it was because people talk about it.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It was amazing. And speaking of Kevin Spacey, he got accused by a 14-year-old at an after party. But it’s like where the fuck we’re the parents?

Stassi Schroeder:
OK. But I will say this…yes, where were the fuck were your parents. But the way that Kevin Spacey responded to it…

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
I didn’t even see that, tell me. He said sorry I saw that.

Stassi Schroeder:
No, he made it about him coming out.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Oh yes, that’s right.

Stassi Schroeder:
He switched to the narrative he changed the narrative so that it was all about him so he would look like a victim. Everyone knew he was gay, but he had never come out as being a homosexual.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
And now he would look like a pedophile.

Stassi Schroeder:
He took the opportunity…I’m sure he did this, and I’m sure he’s done bad things. He used it in a way to make himself look like I’ve been in the closet. Poor me. And that is infuriated me.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s like Roman Polanski. You know it’s the same kind except for Roman Polanski did bang the girl.

Stassi Schroeder:
He’s not allowed to come back to the US?

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
He’s not because they will lock him up.

Stassi Schroeder:
Homeboy has to stay out of here.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
No, he can’t come back. But you know her mother was there. She took her to the party like it went down at the party and it’s like she never said no. It was consensual and you know there’s like there’s this…It’s hard it’s hard. Like I can’t judge. I really can’t.

Stassi Schroeder:
I think you would be a great judge because you’re so fair. Like you really look at both sides whereas I feel like again and this is another reason I had you as my guest to talk about this where I react to things like I have guttural reactions and emotional reactions and I don’t really think before I speak sometimes whereas like you’re very…you think.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
But that’s what we’re talking about today about people saying things and not knowing…

Stassi Schroeder:
The consequences and the weight

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Yeah, the weight of what you say. Yeah because their lives are ruined. They might as well be the Salem witches hanging from trees. All these men their career, their lives, their wives, and children.

Stassi Schroeder:
Their children is like really who I think about besides like when I were talking about the cast and crew and stuff like that and everybody else who works on films like their children

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Their parents are known as you know sexual predators. And that’s a really strong word, sexual predator. Can you imagine being known as that?

Stassi Schroeder:
OK so what are the numbers now, it’s 35? Nick Carter’s the 35th.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Nick might be 36 because there was someone else named yesterday that I can’t remember. But you know regardless it’s like if you are a sexual predator and you are preying on women who are abusing them you deserve to have your career destroyed like that.

Stassi Schroeder:
Absolutely. If you’re actually doing the thing, then yes.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
If you are actually doing the things that you’re being accused of and that is why I feel like there needs to be more time before you fire somebody you know to really to really make sure because the consequences are grave for everybody it’s not just one person. And I think it’s great to keep that in mind and also look at everything with an open mind instead of just believing everything. You know we hear and see and to really just be a judge for yourself. I mean we shouldn’t be judging anyways because I mean what good is our opinion going to do.

Stassi Schroeder:
I know. I mean I judge for a living.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
But I mean we can’t send them to jail…

Stassi Schroeder:
I judge somebody’s outfit. I’m not judging whether they’re a sexual predator.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
We can’t command for them to be hanged and stuff so just you know leave it up to the law.

Stassi Schroeder:
Yeah. So I before because I’m going to end on a lighter note. OK. But before I go into this next topic I am going to say this again what Jennifer just said. Like yes if you are somebody that’s doing these things you deserve what you’re getting. We just don’t know yet. But what the real issue is, is the victims that are actual real victims. I’m sorry to all the victims, to false accusers you can go fuck yourselves. Also, sexual predators go fuck yourself.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Also, ladies just say no. Just push ‘em off.

Stassi Schroeder:
Just be a bitch.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
It’s fine.

Stassi Schroeder:
Adopt the resting bitch face.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Totally. That gives you power, more power than going on social media.

Stassi Schroeder:
I feel like I scare dudes.

Jennifer Hoffner (Stassi’s Guest):
Totally, I think I did too back when I dated.

Stassi Schroeder:
So we all just need to learn to be scary so that we’re not put in that position.

So, there you have it. And if you’ve made it this far pour yourself a glass of something strong because you deserve it!

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  • Kirby

    Bravo has not addressed this trash just like they did not address NeRex rape comments at her show. Despicable

    • Rain

      That’s a great point Kirby . They’re such pigs , they’re probably trying to work it into the show even though shooting has wrapped ! They’ll probably add new scenes now . BARF ?

  • Rain

    Stassi released 2 pathetic ‘apologies ‘ that only underscored her lack of understanding of what she did wrong .

    • Kirby

      Have not seen yet

  • ????????Ð??Ð????

    Thank you Lara, for transcribing all of that garbage. You deserve a medal of honor. I’m sitting here in horror at the things these 2 cunts said. And yes, they deserve to be called cunts. I’m still SMDH over what they both said. Stassi is right, she is the devil and I’m going to post the gif again, sorry to be reduntant but I don’t think it can be said enough! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df17d857f5773ede8d0b904f64d23cee162e326b11cb812fd3856e149d4ddc75.gif

    • Rain

      It’s OUTRAGEOUS and if a man had said ANY of that , he’d be chased out of the country.

    • Rain

      She issued 2 moronic ‘apologies’ ?

      • ????????Ð??Ð????

        Well let’s get on our feet and give the cunt a standing O. *slow clapping* She’s still saying on her twitter it was taken out of context. Total and complete lie. I read the whole transcript and there isn’t one thing that should/could be justified between those 2 idiots and their self masturbation of crapola coming out of their moufs! I’m so worked up and pissed off about this. Not sure how I’m going to feel watching VPR this season knowing all of this now.
        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7df461ce3b9b1848760f167c2de42182b5226e2f0ffd1e2e7aeeecf803a9476a.gif

        • Rain

          I think she also said she is open to hearing from both sides , including men who have been ‘falsely’ accused by women ! Doesn’t EVERY man claim he didn’t do it ?? ??imbecile!! Hmmmm , pray tell us who the funk do you think you are Stassi! Are you suddenly Oprah ? Her mouth is quite useless if there isn’t a dick in it , so go get your lunch

          Oh I will watch and totally hate on that bitch ! I’m quite pissed off even more today after her non-apology apology

          • ????????Ð??Ð????

            OMG, I love it!! “her mouth is quite useless if there isn’t a dick in it”. So true Rainy!! We will have to co-hate on the bitch. I agree, I think I’m madder today, now that I’ve have some time to digest her disgusting words.

            • Rain

              She’s deplorable ! Unbelievable ?

  • Savannah Jones

    So I read most of that transcript just to be fair before I commented. Let me first say I can’t stand her. I find the whole “should I be offended” because it hasn’t happened to you, disgusting. It implies that it’s in some way the victim’s fault. The way they look, the way they act. Instead of keeping the blame solely on the predators. It’s a stupid thing to say, makes me want to scream, do you want it to happen to you? In the beginning I sort of got what she was trying to say with everyone using the metoo hashtag and that some of the stories take away from the seriousness of those who have been sexually assaulted, attacked, raped, or harrassed. But Stassi took it too far. Plus they were both inaccurate. Stating Woody Allen married the girl he supposedly abused, um that would be his daughter and no he didn’t marry her. And that the girl Roman Polanski raped never said no. She was 13 and he pled guilty!! So those kind of statements coming from two women who have a social media following, revolting, dangerous, disgusting, inaccurate and if you are going to comment on such things educate yourself first. And if Kevin Spacey propositioned children that doesn’t make him look like a pedophile, he is one. And Stassi saying she can’t listen to Michael Jackson music but she can watch Roman Polanski, Hervey Weinstein and Woody Allen films. Hypocrite much. She deserves to have the sponsors all ditch her. She’s a moron.

  • Rain

    Imbecile Stassi is full of shit !! I just remembered that a few years back an ex of hers was gong to release a masturbation video of hers . He was given money to give her back the clip and not sell it . Does she in her puny mind not consider this to be a form of violation ?? These violations take on many shapes and forms and nobody attacked HER and called her a moron for making a masturbation video, eveybody was sympathetic and kind , as they should’ve been …….. Horse’s ass !!

  • RichmondVA

    I couldn’t get through the entire transcript either. That’s lovely that she thinks no one could force her into sexual acts. I guess she’s never been drugged or threatened with a weapon. The victims shouldn’t have to be subjected to her ignorance. They are wonderful and brave. She’s an imbecile.

    • Rain

      Imbecile is right!!! This notion that just because it hasn’t happened to HER , means it’s not happening to any other woman , is narcissistic and ignorant. Bigly sad

  • Rain

    I was going to tackle and argue this post but then I thought why the F . I don’t have the energy or mood to tackle every moronic thing these girls say ! I’ll just smh and move on and shove more pie in my mouth . Who needs men to disparage and assault women when you got simpletons like Stassi working/sabotaging from the inside . Bigly sad

    • ????????Ð??Ð????

      Hahaha, me too but then, I realized, what the hell for? Stassi is a complete lowlife and this is more confirmation. Never forget, Stassi is…… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/df17d857f5773ede8d0b904f64d23cee162e326b11cb812fd3856e149d4ddc75.gif

      • Rain

        ??? I just added a post above !! Did she forget she made a masturbation video than an ex exploited?! Way to bring womanhood forward Stassi!

        • ????????Ð??Ð????

          Ooooo, very good observation on her homemade porno, that someone tried to take advantage of, no less!!

        • RichmondVA

          Oh my gosh- good point! I forgot about that. Stassi is such a great role model for the powerless victims!! #gag

          • Rain

            Clearly she forgot too ?? it’ll be a hard fall from that soap box of hers ?

  • samael

    I could only stand reading up to “hamsters”..the ignorance is real!

    of course Bravo and Ass andy will probably give her a spin off..other boss’s would fire the bitch…not Bravo or Ass Andy!

  • September24

    I don’t need to read the transcript. I can tell you just from the title of her topic she has never been harassed or assaulted. Good. I’m glad she doesn’t know what it is like. Now to quote Brandi STFU!